Weight Weenies! Look at this message I received about Scott!
12-08-05, 01:00 PM
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Weight Weenies! Look at this message I received about Scott!
"Just wanted to let you know that we received a new 2006 Scott CR1 size 54. We installed only Zipp 202's and the actual weight is 12.6 POUNDS! No other changes were made to the stock bike."
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12-08-05, 01:25 PM
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Maybe a typo? 16.2 vs 12.6
Isn't the minimum weight on Pro bike Tour something like 14.6?
Isn't the minimum weight on Pro bike Tour something like 14.6?
12-08-05, 01:27 PM
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12.6 is very possible with select components, wheels, and a few things missing like pedals and bottle cages. Maybe even with.
12-08-05, 01:37 PM
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Top of the line CR1s are listed at 15-15.2 lb (15.2 with DA10/Ksyrium SL). Dropping 2.4-2.6 lbs seems like a stretch for only a wheel change. Zipp 202s are simply not over 2 lbs lighter than Mavics (more like a pound).
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sounds a tad optimistic. Weight weenies has a CR1 totally tricked out (i.e. cf chainrings etc.) that weighs 5702 g (approximately 12.6 lbs.)
12-08-05, 01:52 PM
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Isn't the '06 frame even lighter than previous years?
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Website has the frame listed at 1.94 lb / 880 grams. You may be right; for some reason I'm thinking last year it was a portly 900 grams.
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12-08-05, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SpongeDad
I'm thinking last year it was a portly 900 grams.
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Originally Posted by smoke
"Just wanted to let you know that we received a new 2006 Scott CR1 size 54. We installed only Zipp 202's and the actual weight is 12.6 POUNDS! No other changes were made to the stock bike."
cripes! don't drop this in the river; it may float away!
cripes! don't drop this in the river; it may float away!
My new S-Works E5 weighs 15.3 lbs. with pedals, and that's with the fairly heavy Specialized carbon bar (232 g), stem (141 g), saddle (268 g), seatpost (240 g), and fork (340 g).
If I were to swap out those components with some boutique stuff (Tune, Schmolke, Extralight) and the wheels (Ksyrium SL tubulars with Continental Sprinter tires) with something lighter (Zipp 202's or Lightweight Obermayer's with some Tufo SL tubluars), I could probably get the weight down to about 13 lbs.
Granted, it'll cost about $6000 USD to get it done, but it can be done, and that's what is important.
12-08-05, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rickkko
Maybe a typo? 16.2 vs 12.6
Isn't the minimum weight on Pro bike Tour something like 14.6?
Isn't the minimum weight on Pro bike Tour something like 14.6?
12-08-05, 04:32 PM
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I've got a spreadsheet I run some known weights through for a possible "project build." Here's one for a Look 585 I've got that comes in at 12.61 without pedals or cages. It's probably pretty close to accurate (forgive the spacing):
Frame Look 585 55cm 1052
Fork HSC 5 SL 295
Headset ? 60
Shifters 2005 Campagnolo Record 325
Brakes Zero Gravity 0G-05 168
FD 2005 Campagnolo Record 70
RD 2005 Campagnolo Record 185
BB 2006 Stronglight Twister Ti 182
Cassette 2005 Campagnolo Record, 11-23 Ti 142
Lockring 2005 Campagnolo 11t steel 14
Crank 2006 Stronglight Pulsion CT2 435
Crank bolts 2006 Stronglight Pulsion CT2 35
Chain 2006 Campagnolo C10 Ultra 260
Seatpost Easton EC90 27.2 x 250 159
Saddle Selle San Marco Aspide Composite 115
Pedals Look KEO Ti 0
Bars Easton EC90 Equipe Pro 44 198
Stem Easton EC90 120 138
Bar tape Cinelli Cork, Celeste w/ plugs 55
Front Wheel Reynolds Stratus DV-UL 479
Rear Wheel Reynolds Stratus DV-UL 685
Tires Continental Competition 486
Tubes 0
Glue Continental 25
Cables Nokon Konkavex 155
Collar 0
Cages Record Carbon 0
Computer ? 0
Weight (g) 5718
Weight (lbs) 12.61
Frame Look 585 55cm 1052
Fork HSC 5 SL 295
Headset ? 60
Shifters 2005 Campagnolo Record 325
Brakes Zero Gravity 0G-05 168
FD 2005 Campagnolo Record 70
RD 2005 Campagnolo Record 185
BB 2006 Stronglight Twister Ti 182
Cassette 2005 Campagnolo Record, 11-23 Ti 142
Lockring 2005 Campagnolo 11t steel 14
Crank 2006 Stronglight Pulsion CT2 435
Crank bolts 2006 Stronglight Pulsion CT2 35
Chain 2006 Campagnolo C10 Ultra 260
Seatpost Easton EC90 27.2 x 250 159
Saddle Selle San Marco Aspide Composite 115
Pedals Look KEO Ti 0
Bars Easton EC90 Equipe Pro 44 198
Stem Easton EC90 120 138
Bar tape Cinelli Cork, Celeste w/ plugs 55
Front Wheel Reynolds Stratus DV-UL 479
Rear Wheel Reynolds Stratus DV-UL 685
Tires Continental Competition 486
Tubes 0
Glue Continental 25
Cables Nokon Konkavex 155
Collar 0
Cages Record Carbon 0
Computer ? 0
Weight (g) 5718
Weight (lbs) 12.61
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Originally Posted by 56/12 and 22/28
UCI minimum for road-going bikes is 6.8 kg, or about 14.99 lbs. That includes pedals, bottle cages and computer.
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Originally Posted by 56/12 and 22/28
12.6 lbs. is easy.
My new S-Works E5 weighs 15.3 lbs. with pedals, and that's with the fairly heavy Specialized carbon bar (232 g), stem (141 g), saddle (268 g), seatpost (240 g), and fork (340 g).
If I were to swap out those components with some boutique stuff (Tune, Schmolke, Extralight) and the wheels (Ksyrium SL tubulars with Continental Sprinter tires) with something lighter (Zipp 202's or Lightweight Obermayer's with some Tufo SL tubluars), I could probably get the weight down to about 13 lbs.
Granted, it'll cost about $6000 USD to get it done, but it can be done, and that's what is important.
My new S-Works E5 weighs 15.3 lbs. with pedals, and that's with the fairly heavy Specialized carbon bar (232 g), stem (141 g), saddle (268 g), seatpost (240 g), and fork (340 g).
If I were to swap out those components with some boutique stuff (Tune, Schmolke, Extralight) and the wheels (Ksyrium SL tubulars with Continental Sprinter tires) with something lighter (Zipp 202's or Lightweight Obermayer's with some Tufo SL tubluars), I could probably get the weight down to about 13 lbs.
Granted, it'll cost about $6000 USD to get it done, but it can be done, and that's what is important.
12-08-05, 09:51 PM
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We have a few hills where I live too.
If I was to put all of the components from Trinity onto a CR-1, I could knock off about a pound. Then I'd have a sub 14# bike, instead the bulky and overweight sub 15# bike I am forced to strain myself on right now.
If I was to put all of the components from Trinity onto a CR-1, I could knock off about a pound. Then I'd have a sub 14# bike, instead the bulky and overweight sub 15# bike I am forced to strain myself on right now.
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12-08-05, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bob the nailer
obvioiusly someone who has never been to oklahoma, lots of hills, particularly east of okc.
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Originally Posted by gcasillo
^^^ You'll wait at the top of what in Oklahoma? The driveway? 
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what about the weight of the grease in the bearings? and dirt. or wax, even. don't shine it! you'll add weight!
