derath

I have been testing out bikes this week. Rode a Cannondale, which I really enjoyed. At the end of the ride I was waiting to cross the road back to the LBS. I had one foot clipped in, one out. My clipped foot was at 3 oclock (straight forward), and I just happened to notice that I turned the wheel, and it just barely catches my foot.

I always kinda remembered that is something sorta bad.

-D

Voodoo76

Overlap, neither good or bad, just a function of frame geometry.

recursive

Not a huge deal necessarily. It's a bigger deal if it's fixed gear, but I have like a 2 inch overlap on my fixed gear. If it bothers you, then it's a problem. Otherwise, rock on.

derath

Sounds cool. I dunno, I thought I remembered it being a no no. But the LBS said it was just a function of todays compact frame geometries.

It didn't really bother me, except I thought it should

Cypress

It's only going to affect you if you are prone to doing the ol' "aww hell I dropped my water bottle" shuffle.

enduro

It complicates trackstands as well.

rcyclist68

Assuming you mean while stopped it would be fine. You won't be able to turn the front wheel that much while riding.

recursive

You don't need to turn it much while riding. Even with my 2" overlap, my foot only touches the tire below 5mph, and it never causes me to fall. Riding with a freewheel, you'll stop pedalling while cornering before your foot hits the wheel or your pedal will hit the ground first. It's not a problem. Watch your handlebars when you turn. Even seemingly sharp turns don't require much handlebar rotation.

mingsta

No biggie dude, happens on some smaller frames. I'm a shortarse at 5'8 and would rather have a bit of overlap than have a steeper seat tube and slacker head angle to eliminate it.

Not good in a fixie though! And scuffs up yer nice shoes if you forget at slow speeds.

F1_Fan

It's been a function of frame geometries for a long, long time, it's nothing to do with compact geometry.

Although not a perfect rule-of-thumb... I'd be suspicious of a road bike that *didn't* have toe overlap. That would indicate a pretty slack front end to me.

Mr. Beanz

My Canni is a 58 and my Lemond a 57! The Lemond shocked me the first time I did a track stand type thing. I said "Tried"!

My toe touched but now that I'm aware, hasn't happened or been a problem.

My canni is classic geo and the Lemond a compact, but don't think that has anything to do with it.

I think it's the fact that the Canni has rake in the fork and the Lemond is a straight blade fork thereofe shortening the wheel base..

ViperZ

Toe Clip Over lap as it has been called in the days before Clipless pedals...

The Overlap has always been a sought after trait in a Racing bike, proof that it does have tight geometry Kinda like bragging rights

I have lots of ToeClip overlap, however it has never hindered a track stand. Typically my cranks are at 2:00 & 8:00 during trackstanding.

Nachoman

I've got some overlap too on one of my rides. No big deal. Any real turning, at any speed above 2 or 3 mph, and you're turning by leaning, not cranking the handlebar sideways. So no contact.

Baldanzi

No big deal. It will rarely ever be an issue...

...I say "rarely" because, many years ago when I got my first "real" road bike I did not know that this could even happen. During a slow speed manuver on my first ride the wheel was turned prety sharply and I kept pedaling, got my foot to the 3:00 position and then...uh, duh...tried to put the wheel back straight. Down I went...it was prety funny actually. You be amazed at how this will really never be an issue.