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Old 03-16-06, 02:08 PM   #251
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I vote for the Nokons...you're over the top with bling, anyway!

Besides, you already own them, they tie in with the Titanium nicely, they're lighter, and I assume they are smoother.

Why not?
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Humm... I suppose trying the Nokons would not hurt, Not sure. I really like the sedate look of the black Campys. I wish more custom colors and jackets on regular cables were available like in the 80's.

I think a Carbon weave cable would be killer, anybody know of some?
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I'd like to see you go with the Nokons for personal profit, meaning I'd like to see a good objective review before I invest in a set.
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I'd like to see you go with the Nokons for personal profit, meaning I'd like to see a good objective review before I invest in a set.
and you should not be ashamed to say so
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Ok then, since you agree, Nokons it is - with a full report to follow. You're the best ViperZ.
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i kind of like how the single nokon looks here although i also like how the black cable flows into the black brake caliper. i dont think the silver nokons will look right at the handle bars since there will be four of them bunched up together. tough decision.

now black nokons would be a no brainer. can you exchange the silver since theyre unused?
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Ok then, since you agree, Nokons it is - with a full report to follow. You're the best ViperZ.

I'm actually mapping out the Black Campys right now as I type.... I thought they would make a good template for cable length should I use the Nokons.


BlueCd, that picture really makes them toned down more than they are in real life. They really are flashy looking and actually cheapen the looks of the bike in my eye.

I'm not sure I would exchange them as I actually bought them for the Trek, which I think they would look great on
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I'm not sure I would exchange them as I actually bought them for the Trek, which I think they would look great on
just looked at the trek again and yes, they will look very good on it since there are shinier silver components to match.
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just looked at the trek again and yes, they will look very good on it since there are shinier silver components to match.
Yeah, I'm not so sure about the long length of shifter cable showing, that may be too much Bling too. I bought them for the Trek because I was going to loop the Dura Ace shifter cables back under the bar tape, hiding the majority of the shift cables like Campy.
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Joining this late. Did I see a total budget number on this build? Maybe you have a defense department contract?
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Joining this late. Did I see a total budget number on this build? Maybe you have a defense department contract?
Naw, this is just the 'rain bike/beater'!!!

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Joining this late. Did I see a total budget number on this build? Maybe you have a defense department contract?

I really don't want to think about it until I have at least had a ride or two on it, then cost won;t matter


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Naw, this is just the 'rain bike/beater'!!!
Was to be is the operative here


I just finished a rough out of the cables. I used the Nokons just because as some have stated, I just had to.... They are really too PIMP for me

Really they are. Too much Bling, Bling




I'm taking them off
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Too much bling, bling - how's that possible? Anyway, I guess that means no objective review of how they shift. But you could still tell us what the difference in weight is between the two - yes/no?
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Too much bling, bling - how's that possible? Anyway, I guess that means no objective review of how they shift. But you could still tell us what the difference in weight is between the two - yes/no?

Well here is my installation review. I got home at 5:30 and after a quick supper, I just finished at 9:00. They take a bit of time to install, and if you cut the inner liner too short, even by one link/pearl, you have to start threading all over again with a new length of inner liner. While not really hard, just seemed a bit troublesome and fiddly for something as simple as control cables.





There were lots of parts, and plenty of inner liner. I would hate to have a cable break on the road for a person could be scrambling for pearls

I think I'll stick with the plan of installing them on my Trek's shifters some time this season.


I see about weighing them against nearly the same length of Campy cables.

The one thing I really like about them is they seem very flexible, and they seem to not hinder steering friction at all

The look of them remind me of the Sentinels tentacles in the Matrix, just all polished up
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Definately bling but I still like the look of the Nokons, especially the rear!

Anyway, either nokons or plain black cables will both look pretty good. I just really liked the picture of that Nokon cable on the rear brake.

I have a set of black Nokons going on my Fondriest. Now, if you could use black Nokon pearls for the front cables and silver pearls for rear brake, that would be best IMO
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Nokons = 98g

Campy = 118g

I suppose if you were a weight weenie it would matter
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Sleepystarz, I know what you're saying. The single is ok, but the mutitude at the cockpit is too ungainly. I tend to like the sleeker look of a smooth cable.

Now if maybe I had a set of these pearls in Gun Metal (the one between the orange and the gold) or Blue
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Installing the Campys now
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The weight difference would only matter to a real weight weenie, so I suppose the shifting would be the real indicator of value. Once you've got them on your Trek, you'll have to let us know.
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After this epic build, I reckon we've almost forgot the fact that pretty soon you're gonna get to ride it!!!

So, any expectations on how its gonna ride? I take it this is your first Ti?
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The weight difference would only matter to a real weight weenie, so I suppose the shifting would be the real indicator of value. Once you've got them on your Trek, you'll have to let us know.
I can't see the shifting performance being too drastically changed good or bad... I suppose we'll see once I'm riding the bike if the performance is crisp or lacking of the Campy

The Aztecs (which are like the Nokons) I have on my Trek shift well enough, I just wanted the Nokons so I could run the shift cables under the bar tape for the Shimano DA levers.


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So, any expectations on how its gonna ride? I take it this is your first Ti?

We had a late snow, so soon maybe a while yet The first club ride is planned for April 1st. I doubt that well be happening unless we ride our MTB's


Correct, it is my first Ti bike and carbon fork for that matter. I have no real expectations, other than some vision of silky smoothness that Ti is said to have. Most of all, I hope the the bike fits and I have spec'd everything correctly. It's been a while since I have ridden a bike that feels a big as this. I always liked smaller bikes.


The Black cables look much better and blend more into the bike rather than shout for all the attention
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Viper did you get the tool yet?
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Viper did you get the tool yet?
Hey Mellow, No.... So I was finally able to borrow a tool and will be setting up the BB today. Still that tool you sent will be handy to have. Thanks!
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After this epic build, I reckon we've almost forgot the fact that pretty soon you're gonna get to ride it!!!
As I'm setting up my parts and tools on my work bench, sipping my Tim Horton's "Roll up the Rim to Win" coffee with Timbits, I have come to the sad realization..... I'm going to need another project soon, for this is one aspect of cycling that I really love, wrenching And talking to you guys about my project

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My 1/2" drive Torque wrench was in my tool box in my garage, which was at ambient temperatures -10C



I suppose I'll have to let it warm up before using
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