etiquette when someone is trying really hard to pass you...
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etiquette when someone is trying really hard to pass you...
It was actually sunny it Portland today so I encountered a lot more bicyclists than usual on my daily morning ride. One encounter I had was sort of interesting, I was going by some apartments when I noticed another cyclist turn out onto the road right behind me as I passed. I smiled and continued on my way. About 5 miles later I was warming up and going at a healthy clip when I noticed a wheel out of the left corner of my eye. It turned out to be the same cycleist apparently trying to pass me (he did not say anything about passing), but he didn't have enough speed to do it very cleanly. We were both going about 22-23 and he was still about 3/4ths of a bike behind me so I maintained my speed and moved a bit to the right. About 10 seconds later he still was not parallel with me but I acknowledged him with a smile. At this point I was not quite sure what to do, we were coming up to turn and we could not both take it at the same time, so I could either speed up which would seem like sort of an arrogant thing to do now that he was nearly parallel with me and I had acknowledged him, or I could slow down and let him pass or just maintain speed and see if he could muster up enough to pass me before the turn. The only really safe option seemed to be to slow down and let him go ahead which I did and shortly after we went opposite directions at the next intersection. So, generally speaking, when out for ride and someone is struggling to pass you (taking 10-20 seconds) and you don't have to worry about any turns or traffic or anything should you try to assists them by slowing down, do you speed up, or do you just maintain speed and let them burn themselves out trying to pass you?
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I say maintain your speed. This is your workout and if someone is going to pass...they should pass, or, if they aren't going fast enought o pass in the first place they should just stay behind you.
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I would say unless there is a potential problem area coming up, then keep doing what you are doing and let the other cyclist worry about passing you if that's what they want to do.
If you particularly dislike people lurking around your back wheel, then do what seems appropriate at the time.
If you are feelling particularly mean, then you can speed up ever so slightly and really make them work.
If you particularly dislike people lurking around your back wheel, then do what seems appropriate at the time.
If you are feelling particularly mean, then you can speed up ever so slightly and really make them work.
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In theory, it's his responsibilty as the (wannabe) overtaking cyclist to pass only where it's safe to pass. However, not knowing him, and not knowing what he would do, you exercised appropriate caution and ensured both your safety.
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Had there been no hazard coming up, you would be free to do whatever your whim dictated...speed up a bit to make it a race or 'pwning', maintain speed and let him work to pass, or slow down to get rid of the nuisance of having him beside you.
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Had there been no hazard coming up, you would be free to do whatever your whim dictated...speed up a bit to make it a race or 'pwning', maintain speed and let him work to pass, or slow down to get rid of the nuisance of having him beside you.
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I believe a well-timed snot rocket to the port side is considered bad form.
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In racing, the guy in front has the right of way, he can go anywhere he wants on the road. But seeing as its a friendly ride, I would have just kept going at the pace I wanted, looked at him over my shoulder and told him what direction I was going to turn.
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Originally Posted by bigskymacadam
first day of spring brings out the crazy's as if it was a full moon. let them burn themselves out ....
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haha thats what you get for passing off of the path where nobody would ever expect you to be
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how about you say "take the skirt off and pass me if that's your plan champ!"
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Originally Posted by Shiznaz
haha thats what you get for passing off of the path where nobody would ever expect you to be
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Hi tofu,
I generally have a different opinion than the other posters. I have had plenty of experiences where an inexperienced rider gets into a bad position in that situation that causes grief for at least one of the riders. There is a saying about old cyclists and bold cyclists (stolen from motorcycling, I think) -- there are no bold, old cyclists. If the other rider doesn't understand etiquette (and this gentleman obviously did not) then you did the right thing by slowing down (turn or no turn). Letting your ego (I'm faster) or your "right of way" make decisions for you will more often than not lead to a situation that you would rather avoid
Having someone you don't know or have not ridden with prior in your blind spot or overlapping you is inherently dangerous (even on a straight level rosad). That kind of riding greatly reduces the ability of either rider to safely avoid road hazards.
So my put is to slow down and let the other rider go by and get far enough ahead so that they don't intergere with your ride. For instance, many times during our club rides, when a "rogue rider" (someone who doesn't exhibit any sense of riding etiquette) get into our group, we will call out a "mechanical" and let the rider go. We'll wait a couple of minutes before going again just to make sure that we don't encounter the rider again.
I generally have a different opinion than the other posters. I have had plenty of experiences where an inexperienced rider gets into a bad position in that situation that causes grief for at least one of the riders. There is a saying about old cyclists and bold cyclists (stolen from motorcycling, I think) -- there are no bold, old cyclists. If the other rider doesn't understand etiquette (and this gentleman obviously did not) then you did the right thing by slowing down (turn or no turn). Letting your ego (I'm faster) or your "right of way" make decisions for you will more often than not lead to a situation that you would rather avoid
Having someone you don't know or have not ridden with prior in your blind spot or overlapping you is inherently dangerous (even on a straight level rosad). That kind of riding greatly reduces the ability of either rider to safely avoid road hazards.
So my put is to slow down and let the other rider go by and get far enough ahead so that they don't intergere with your ride. For instance, many times during our club rides, when a "rogue rider" (someone who doesn't exhibit any sense of riding etiquette) get into our group, we will call out a "mechanical" and let the rider go. We'll wait a couple of minutes before going again just to make sure that we don't encounter the rider again.
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Originally Posted by tofu
So, generally speaking, when out for ride and someone is struggling to pass you (taking 10-20 seconds) and you don't have to worry about any turns or traffic or anything should you try to assists them by slowing down, do you speed up, or do you just maintain speed and let them burn themselves out trying to pass you?
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Maybe he was drafting. If it were me, I would cautiously make tiny but noticeable jerks. Not enough to get close to him but enough to make him start to think YOU'RE the dangerous one. He will (hopefully) get away from you. If that doesn't work, he's oblivious and you need to avoid him at all costs, even slowing/speeding your workout pace for a moment.
Or my new method might be the honesty approach, since that's working for me in all other conflicts in my life. Just tell the guy "Ya know, I'm kinda uncomfortable with you riding so close" and he should respect that.
Or my new method might be the honesty approach, since that's working for me in all other conflicts in my life. Just tell the guy "Ya know, I'm kinda uncomfortable with you riding so close" and he should respect that.
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If they're being silly and creating a dangerous situation I let them pass. If the road is clear and I'm feeling energetic I let them pass (and relax a little) then ditch them for good.
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I just maintain speed. Riders with enough power will pass you decisively. Slowing or speeding up will confuse everyone else.
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Originally Posted by Jet-man
how about you say "take the skirt off and pass me if that's your plan champ!"
She'd tell you to take off your skirt and get out of her way.
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Originally Posted by San Rensho
But seeing as its a friendly ride, I would have just kept going at the pace I wanted, looked at him over my shoulder and told him what direction I was going to turn.
Is everybody here a mute?
Try talking to the guy. Unless you and he are competent mind-readers the safe thing to do is communicate.
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Dial it up and drop him.
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It sounds like the Knaves are out in force. Did the guy look like this?
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Slow down & let'm pass. Ride his wheel or drop back a bit. When he starts to burn out, drop him.
Safest thing to do. Why take chances?
Safest thing to do. Why take chances?