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    About to purchase a 2006 Trek 1500 - Follow up & Possible problem.

    Greetings all!

    I'm a new member here (as most of you can tell) and would like to say hi to everyone here on the forum! I have been reading the forums for a little and there are some really great threads for all types of riders. I am a beginner to road bikes and I'm about to purchase a new bike. The bike I'm looking into is the 2006 Trek 1500 --> http://www2.trekbikes.com/bikes/bike...id=1442000&f=4
    I currently ride a Gary Fisher Hoo Kee E Koo disc mountain bike. I love it and I love riding. I ride pretty much every single day. The reason I'm thinking about a road bike is because I want more speed and want to be able to go further distances. And mainly, there's a ride coming this August that is 760Km and I'll be trying to raise money to fund Cancer Research for kids. It's called the Tour for Kids and the website is www.tourforkids.com for those who may be interested. Anyways, I have done some research on the Trek 1500 and it seems like a wonderful bike. I am not sure of sizing for me as of yet but I'm guessing I can fit a 56 or 58. About 6-7 months ago I tried a 2005 Trek 1500 and it was 58 and it felt pretty nice but when I got back to the LBS one of the sale persons said that a 56 might be better for me and it's common that men sometimes pick a bike that is too big for them. I will be going to the shop tomorrow to get fitted and I hope everything works out okay.

    The 2006 Trek 1500 is of course stock and I'm looking for some advice on some things I can do to maybe make the bike better. I have ALWAYS been obsessed with smooth shifting, fast acceleration, and durability. The first things that come to my mind to change may be the 9 speed setup to a 10 speed setup but I'm not too sure right now how much more that'll cost and if it's a lot more then I can definately do without. Next I want to go 2-ring but not sure on how many teeth for the rings. The stock is Shimano 105 52/39/30 so I guess the 2-ring would be 52 or 53 and 39 - any recommendations would be nice. I was also considering changing the wheelset to something a bit better than the stock Bontrager Selects, unless of course these a good enough wheels for now. I know the tires gotta go so I'll pick up some Michelin Pro Races (size 23C ?) My main concern is what little to moderate upgrades can I make to get more speed and smoother shifting out of the bike? I'm guessing the Rear Derailleur from Ultegra to Dura-Ace and maybe Ultegra shifters? Well, I guess I have typed enough for now. If you have made it this far into reading this thread, thanks for taking the time to do so! Any feedback and information is greatly appreciated! *TIA*

    All the best and happy riding!
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    The 1500 is a great value, but if you are already looking to upgrade, why not move up to a 2100 or even a 5000. Any components in the 105 group or above are going to be very good. If you have extra cash I would move up to a better bike to start with. The 1500 is great, but that is because it is a very good value, for more $$$ there are lots of options.

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    If you want 10 speed and/or Ultegra components, then buy a bike that come with them. Upgrading a bike from 9 speed to 10 speed will cost several hundred dollars. The shift levers are the main component in "smooth shifting" and those will cost at least a couple of hundred dollars alone.

    The stock tires on most bikes aren't great, but they aren't terrible either. Just use them until they wear out and then you can think about replacing them with something better. A serious rider will go through 2 or more pairs of tires every year. If you aren't that serious, you probably won't notice the difference between entry-level tires and nicer ones.

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    Yeah I was considering moving up to a better bike overall but the price is somewhat out of my budget. The 1500 costs around $1399 CDN + taxes which ends up to be $1608 CDN. The next bike that really caught my eye was the 2200 (they don't have the 2100 at this LBS) and the price on that one is an insane $2200 CDN + taxes! Yikes just thinkin' about it makes me cringe a lil. After taxes that bike would be about $2530 CDN. That is somewhat out of my budget because it's about $1000 dollars more than the 1500 but I dunno, I guess if all those parts on the 2200 were really worth it I could take the hit and just buy that bike. The thing is I still have to get shoes and some other gear and maybe even a trainer. It would be nice if the LBS would throw something into a purchase that big. Then I would really consider getting the 2200. Right now the 1500 and some upgrades fit my budget. What do you think? Would it really be worth it to go for broke right off the bat or just take the somewhat lesser bike and upgrade a little now and a little in the future.

    TIA!
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    What are you upgrading for? Do want the bike to be lighter? Shift smoother? Look cooler?

    The 1500 is a great starter road bike. Reasonable weight and a pretty good build, especially for the money.

    To go lighter you can try the tire change you spoke of but you would just be wasting some good rubber unless the bike shop will make the swap for you gratis. For a couple of hundred bucks you could save weight on the bar and stem and that gives you a top shelf bar/stem combination that you could even bring to another bike down the road. Any other large scale component swap will render the bike a bad choice and make a step up the better way to go (economics).

    For performance enhancement though I would put some money into clipless pedals and shoes. That is probably the best bang for your buck ... and you could always move them to another bike.

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    You might have already done this, you didn't say, but buying a new bike is a big decision, and there are a lot of nice road bikes in your price range. Different frames feel very different. Providing there are stocked bike shops in your area, why not ride a bunch of bikes to see which one feels best? Cannondale, Specialized, Fuji, LeMond, many more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro
    Yeah I was considering moving up to a better bike overall but the price is somewhat out of my budget. The 1500 costs around $1399 CDN + taxes which ends up to be $1608 CDN. The next bike that really caught my eye was the 2300 (they don't have the 2100 at this LBS) and the price on that one is an insane $2200 CDN + taxes!
    Does your shop have any other brands of bikes with prices between $1400 and $2200? How do those fit you? There is really not much difference between brands in that price range, except for fit. My understanding is that the Trek 1500 is really made in Taiwan by Giant, so you may as well look at Giant bikes as well. Specialized, Cannondale, LeMond, Bianchi, etc. all have nice bikes in that price range.

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    Bianchis, Giants, and Cannondales are also really nice, as are many other bikes in your price range. If you want to get the best deal for your money don't get your heart too set on one bike for now. What are your needs? A 1500 is already a light and very smooth bike. The stock 105 components will offer pretty much 90% of Dura-Ace performance for a fraction of the price as well.

    As for the Bontrager Selects, they're very nice wheels, about 1800 g total and decently aerodynamic; I have a set and they have never come out of true. They're also very durable. You could spend an extra $350 and upgrade to the Bontrager Race Lites, saving you maybe 200 g of weight. My advice is to stick with the Selects for now.

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    I just got a 1500 on sunday. Its a strange bike because it has the 2007 paint job and full ultegra. $1000 out the door. I was stunned when I found it. I'll see if i can get a decent pic inside my apartment.

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    '07 bikes are out already? The '06s just came out. Are you sure you didn't get an '04 or '05? How many gears on the ultegra rear?

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    10, im going to grab some pictures

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    I just sold a 1500 last Sunday. I think our price was $969 + tax. Great first bike.

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    I say if you like the bike and it's in your budget, get it and ride lots. There's probably nothing that need upgrading right away, especially if you aren't racing. You can worry about upgrades as things wear out. You might like having the triple if you do a lot of hills, it's certainly not going to slow you down.

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    The main reason for my upgrade would be to get smoother shifting. I can worry about weight later on but mainly I just want buttery smooth shifting. I made a mistake when I was talking about moving up to the 2300. It's the 2200 not the 2300. The 2200 seems to have some really nice components and looks nice but I like the look of the 1500 much better because of the blue and all. I don't think I really really need a 10 speed but I wouldn't mind one. I would rather have smoother shifting than anything. I was recently reading that the 10 speed cranks are better than the 9 speed and they are supposed to very good for smooth shifting. Dangit, such a difficult decision. I'm thinkin' if I can avoid upgrading later on then I may as well get the more expensive bike with better components and not worry bout upgrading at all. Are the parts on the 2200 really that much better than the 1500??

    2200 specs

    http://www2.trekbikes.com/bikes/bike...id=1446000&f=3

    1500 specs

    http://www2.trekbikes.com/bikes/bike...id=1442000&f=4

    I can't wait to try out the bikes at the shop. I will hopefully ride both the 1500 and 2200. The store I'm going to also have Devinci, Lemond, and Specialized.

    I must say a big thank you to all that have posted so far. I am overwhelmed by the responses so far. I really wasn't sure if I was going to get much advice. Thanks again to everyone!

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    I can't even sleep right now! I really want a new bike!

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    Well I tried to post this last night but the site kept timing out so I guess my post never got through. ok guys, here are a couple of very quick pics of my 2007 Trek 1500. I know they are kinda blury but its dark here. I'm going to get some better ones tomorrow and make a thread. Basically what it looks like is the same build as the '06 1500 but with Ultegra flight deck, crank, front DL and rear DL instead of 105. The paint is different than the '06 as well. I think the rest of the build is the same, Bontrager Select wheelset, carbon seat post, mix of other Bontrager stuff and cane creek SCR-3 brakes. Its my first roadbike (you can kinda see my 2002 Enduro hanging in the background of one of the pics). For $1000 out the door I don't think I could have done any better.






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    Please excuse the toe clips, i bought it sunday and havn't decided on a set of pedals.

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    Looks like a great first bike, but i truly doubt it's an '07.

    I know next to nothing about Trek 1500s, but that's just far tooo ahead of the curve, not to mention the small fact that you've got older Ultegra on it.

    Still a sweet deal!

    congrats



    Quote Originally Posted by copper RS
    Well I tried to post this last night but the site kept timing out so I guess my post never got through. ok guys, here are a couple of very quick pics of my 2007 Trek 1500. I know they are kinda blury but its dark here. I'm going to get some better ones tomorrow and make a thread. Basically what it looks like is the same build as the '06 1500 but with Ultegra flight deck, crank, front DL and rear DL instead of 105. The paint is different than the '06 as well. I think the rest of the build is the same, Bontrager Select wheelset, carbon seat post, mix of other Bontrager stuff and cane creek SCR-3 brakes. Its my first roadbike (you can kinda see my 2002 Enduro hanging in the background of one of the pics). For $1000 out the door I don't think I could have done any better.






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    Thanks to all for the great info. I now have an update...I bought the bike! Whoooo! I now officially own the 2006 Trek 1500 and lemme tell ya, it's beautiful! I really like this this thing and it flies. It's really fast and it has me worried riding in the city Can't wait to get out to some more secluded places without too many cars. I was thinking of some upgrades but in the end I figured everything is pretty much good as is and I went with the bike as a stock. THe main thing I changed was moving over my MTB clipless pedals to the road bike and bought some Sidi Eagle 5 MTB shoes (size 46). Very great combo so far. I am new to the whole clipless thing but I'm slowly learning and I feel fairly confident already with the whole clipping in and out. The next little upgrade will probably be a bike seat. The bike is a 56 and it feels a bit more compact than the 58 but it fits nice. The main concern for me right now is that when I'm riding at a somewhat slow speed and I turn the wheel on somewhat of a 45 degree angle the front tire comes in contact with my shoes if I'm pedalling or have my feet forward. My Sidi shoes already have scuff marks because of the tire coming in contact with them. Now is this a common thing with road bikes? I'm thinking maybe moving up to the 58 will help solve this issue because it does kind of bother me. I still have to do a fit test and I will probably do that within the coming days.

    Take care and safe riding!

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    Like everyone else said if you want to upgrade right out of the box then just buy a higher end bike. But about wanting the double I would hold off on that at first. Climbing on a mountain bike is different then a road bike, you might need that granny gear on some hills.
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    Weird! For some reason the title won't change to what I updated it to. It should read...

    About to purchase a Trek 1500 - Follow up & Possible problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copper RS
    Well I tried to post this last night but the site kept timing out so I guess my post never got through. ok guys, here are a couple of very quick pics of my 2007 Trek 1500. I know they are kinda blury but its dark here. I'm going to get some better ones tomorrow and make a thread. Basically what it looks like is the same build as the '06 1500 but with Ultegra flight deck, crank, front DL and rear DL instead of 105. The paint is different than the '06 as well. I think the rest of the build is the same, Bontrager Select wheelset, carbon seat post, mix of other Bontrager stuff and cane creek SCR-3 brakes. Its my first roadbike (you can kinda see my 2002 Enduro hanging in the background of one of the pics). For $1000 out the door I don't think I could have done any better.





    Wow! That is a really sweet paint scheme. Much nicer than the silly blue one they show on the Trek U.S. website. Nice bike! Especially for that price range.
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    Bought the 2006 Trek 1500 - Follow up & Possible problem.

    I didn't want to start a new thread so I'll repost my problem in this thread again. For some reason it won't update the main thread title.

    Thanks to all for the great info. I now have an update...I bought the bike! Whoooo! I now officially own the 2006 Trek 1500 and lemme tell ya, it's beautiful! I really like this this thing and it flies. It's really fast and it has me worried riding in the city Can't wait to get out to some more secluded places without too many cars. I was thinking of some upgrades but in the end I figured everything is pretty much good as is and I went with the bike as a stock. THe main thing I changed was moving over my MTB clipless pedals to the road bike and bought some Sidi Eagle 5 MTB shoes (size 46). Very great combo so far. I am new to the whole clipless thing but I'm slowly learning and I feel fairly confident already with the whole clipping in and out. The next little upgrade will probably be a bike seat. The bike is a 56 and it feels a bit more compact than the 58 but it fits nice. The main concern for me right now is that when I'm riding at a somewhat slow speed and I turn the wheel on somewhat of a 45 degree angle the front tire comes in contact with my shoes if I'm pedalling or have my feet forward. My Sidi shoes already have scuff marks because of the tire coming in contact with them. Now is this a common thing with road bikes? I'm thinking maybe moving up to the 58 will help solve this issue because it does kind of bother me. I still have to do a fit test and I will probably do that within the coming days.

    Take care and safe riding!

    P.S.
    I'm about 6 and weight about 185lbs.

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    This is caled toe-clip overlap. It bothers some people, doesn't bother others. If you can't live with it, you might need a bigger frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big john
    This is caled toe-clip overlap. It bothers some people, doesn't bother others. If you can't live with it, you might need a bigger frame.
    OK, thanks! I was really thinking there may be a sizing problem but maybe not. I'm still going to take it into the shop and show the guys what's going on. I was hoping I wasn't the only one that has experienced this.

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