Should the words "metric" and "century" ever be used together?
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Should the words "metric" and "century" ever be used together?
Never made any sense to me. If you think in metric terms, it's just a century.
However, if you convert kilometers to miles (or anything else) in your head to figure out how far you're going, it's not really a century and calling it one gives the appearance of someone trying to inflate things a bit.
Am I the only one who'd like to see the term go the way of the dodo bird?
However, if you convert kilometers to miles (or anything else) in your head to figure out how far you're going, it's not really a century and calling it one gives the appearance of someone trying to inflate things a bit.
Am I the only one who'd like to see the term go the way of the dodo bird?
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Originally Posted by banerjek
..Am I the only one who'd like to see the term go the way of the dodo bird?
Hey to the rest of the world I assume it is just called a century. With centuries being such a rite of passage in the US it becomes clear how enterprising ride organizers set their Marketing teams towards making their ride carry the same prestige as an imperial century and ended up with "Metric Century".
Maybe that's why when I told a co-worker from Eurpoe that I had over 10 centuries scheduled for this year he didn't look all that impressed. He was probably thinking...dude that's just like 62 miles.
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...not unless you put the word "double" in front of it.
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Hey to the rest of the world I assume it is just called a century. With centuries being such a rite of passage in the US it becomes clear how enterprising ride organizers set their Marketing teams towards making their ride carry the same prestige as an imperial century and ended up with "Metric Century".
Maybe that's why when I told a co-worker from Eurpoe that I had over 10 centuries scheduled for this year he didn't look all that impressed. He was probably thinking...dude that's just like 62 miles.
Hey to the rest of the world I assume it is just called a century. With centuries being such a rite of passage in the US it becomes clear how enterprising ride organizers set their Marketing teams towards making their ride carry the same prestige as an imperial century and ended up with "Metric Century".
Maybe that's why when I told a co-worker from Eurpoe that I had over 10 centuries scheduled for this year he didn't look all that impressed. He was probably thinking...dude that's just like 62 miles.
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Originally Posted by blue_nose
...not unless you put the word "double" in front of it.
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Yep I agree that adding "metric" to "century" is pointless, after all a century IS metric 'cos it's 100km.
Maybe the only country in the world that is hanging on to the old imperial measurement system should call the 100 mile century an "imperial century", or possibly a "US century".
That would clear things up.
Maybe the only country in the world that is hanging on to the old imperial measurement system should call the 100 mile century an "imperial century", or possibly a "US century".
That would clear things up.
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If the predominant system of measuring at the locale of the century is imperial, then yeah it makes sense to use the modifier 'metric' to describe a 100km event. I'll suggest the inverse applies as well. In any case, if you're bothered by it, then your worry list is admirably short.
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Originally Posted by miyata610
Yep I agree that adding "metric" to "century" is pointless, after all a century IS metric 'cos it's 100km.
Maybe the only country in the world that is hanging on to the old imperial measurement system should call the 100 mile century an "imperial century", or possibly a "US century".
That would clear things up.
Maybe the only country in the world that is hanging on to the old imperial measurement system should call the 100 mile century an "imperial century", or possibly a "US century".
That would clear things up.
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I tend to measure all my riding in terms of time with some notice of average speed rather than distance. I suppose then I really don't care much about the terminology used for nicknames. however, I do suppse also that I would describe a 62-mile as a metric century and a 100-miler as a century.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
+200 <--get it. Got 2 of those scheduled this year as well...why? Because 2 was all I could find
Good luck with your events.
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Originally Posted by banerjek
Never made any sense to me. If you think in metric terms, it's just a century.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Absolutely!!! We Americans think that everybody should think OUR way even though we don't always use the best method. I have no doubt as to why Europeans look at American tourists as snobs.
My best night commision wise selling tools for Sears was when a Japanese manufacturer had just purchased new machines built by a local shop and the shop owner brought him in to by imperial tools for his maintenance crew...they didn't have any. Big a$$ 1 inch drive ratchets and sockets..."I'll take 3 of those....4 of those..."
Daddy bought some new Shimano 600 components to give a little back and say "thanks."
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Originally Posted by banerjek
Never made any sense to me. If you think in metric terms, it's just a century.
However, if you convert kilometers to miles (or anything else) in your head to figure out how far you're going, it's not really a century and calling it one gives the appearance of someone trying to inflate things a bit.
Am I the only one who'd like to see the term go the way of the dodo bird?
However, if you convert kilometers to miles (or anything else) in your head to figure out how far you're going, it's not really a century and calling it one gives the appearance of someone trying to inflate things a bit.
Am I the only one who'd like to see the term go the way of the dodo bird?
I do a metric "century" every weekend, but would never call it such. 100 miles is a far more worthy distance all the more meaningful if there's 2500m climbing thrown in.
You wouldn't have a bit of nookie in the airport toilets and then claim membership to the "mile high club"...ditto for 100 km, it ain't the real deal*.
* but its still a respectable distance and all the power to the people who have trained hard and worked their way up from 20km rides and lost a pounds in the process etc.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Absolutely!!! We Americans think that everybody should think OUR way even though we don't always use the best method. I have no doubt as to why Europeans look at American tourists as snobs.
Cycling is probably one of the more schizophrenic sports when it comes to which system to follow -- most bikes have components based on both systems.
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There is a 'half metric century' organized ride coming up. Doh.
Another term that I don't like is the 'half marathon'. A marathon is a marathon, a half marathon has nothing to do with a marathon. Whats wrong with a 20K?
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Another term that I don't like is the 'half marathon'. A marathon is a marathon, a half marathon has nothing to do with a marathon. Whats wrong with a 20K?
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I normally think in miles...like most in the U.S. I would suspect. Therefore the distinction between a metric century and a century is pretty clear.
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In the world of centuries there are the following terms:
Metric century = 100 kms (62 miles)
Century = 100 miles
Double metric century = 200 kms (125 miles)
Double Century = 200 miles
Triple metric century = 300 kms (187 miles)
Triple Century = 300 miles
..... and so on.
We use the adjective "metric" to distinguish it from the "imperial" century. 100 kms is NOT a century .... 100 miles IS a century.
Even though I am Canadian and think and ride in kilometers, I still hold to that. If I go out and ride 100 kms ... that's a nice ride, but it sure isn't a century!! It wouldn't qualify for any of the Century-A-Month challenges I've done (am doing) or any of the other Century challenges I'm involved in.
Metric century = 100 kms (62 miles)
Century = 100 miles
Double metric century = 200 kms (125 miles)
Double Century = 200 miles
Triple metric century = 300 kms (187 miles)
Triple Century = 300 miles
..... and so on.
We use the adjective "metric" to distinguish it from the "imperial" century. 100 kms is NOT a century .... 100 miles IS a century.
Even though I am Canadian and think and ride in kilometers, I still hold to that. If I go out and ride 100 kms ... that's a nice ride, but it sure isn't a century!! It wouldn't qualify for any of the Century-A-Month challenges I've done (am doing) or any of the other Century challenges I'm involved in.
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Originally Posted by banerjek
What do you mean? We got our dumb system from the Europeans (although since the Brits aren't on the continent, so it could be argued they don't really count) . Why we did not adapt the one decent measurement the system offers (namely the imperial pint -- it's 25% bigger than a US pint) is beyond me.
Cycling is probably one of the more schizophrenic sports when it comes to which system to follow -- most bikes have components based on both systems.
Cycling is probably one of the more schizophrenic sports when it comes to which system to follow -- most bikes have components based on both systems.
You're right that it's schizophrenic, but that's just because it's stronger and more popular in Europe. Nobody cares that we measure an AMERICAN football field in yards because it's almost exclusively US.
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In the non north american world of centuries there are the following terms:
Imperial century = 100 miles
Century = 100 km
Double imperial century = 200 miles
Double Century = 200 km
Triple imperial century = 300 miles
Triple Century = 300 km
..... and so on.
We use the adjective "imperial" to distinguish it from the real century. 100 miles is NOT a century (it's slightly longer).... 100 km IS a century.
Imperial century = 100 miles
Century = 100 km
Double imperial century = 200 miles
Double Century = 200 km
Triple imperial century = 300 miles
Triple Century = 300 km
..... and so on.
We use the adjective "imperial" to distinguish it from the real century. 100 miles is NOT a century (it's slightly longer).... 100 km IS a century.
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Originally Posted by Machka
100 kms is NOT a century .... 100 miles IS a century.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Nobody cares that we measure a football field in yards because it's almost exclusively US.
Oh, you might be talking about gridiron, or whatever that weird game that's only played in one country is called.
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Oh please, 100 miles as some sort of distance for some "century" is just as arbritrary as giving another name to a 100km ride.
You can call it whatever you like it's just a number. The 160km century is just as stupid as 100km for a metric. Think about it, it doesn't even make sense. Why isn't 120km a century, or mabye 121.1km or 139. You get the idea.
You can call it whatever you like it's just a number. The 160km century is just as stupid as 100km for a metric. Think about it, it doesn't even make sense. Why isn't 120km a century, or mabye 121.1km or 139. You get the idea.