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    Vuelta XRP wheels?

    Anyone run these wheels? And if so, what are your thoughts?
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    I'm bumping this thread because it's better than making a new one asking the same thing! Anyone have a response yet?
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    anyone?

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    Yea i have some XRP mountain wheels on my mountain bike. So far have worked fine. Really light. I dunno about durability though as i've only put on about 1100 miles on them, and most of that has been on the road.

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    came with my motobecane

    they are heavy but no worse than velocity deep v's, only have 2300 miles on em, ask me again when they have 15,000

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    the 08 wheels are pretty dang light, the team SLs are 1530g for $270 shipped.

    they've also ditched the paired spoke lacing which i've never been a fan of. radial front and 2x in the back is where it's at.

    can't speak for their durability since I've only run the Elites since June, but the hubs are super smooth out of the box and haven't required any maintenance from my 200 lb. of daily abuse.

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    I can't get past the decals...

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    what about the carbons that are in the bikesdirect group buy? Anyone have those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammertoe View Post
    I can't get past the decals...
    me neither, luckily I have a thumbnail

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    From the BikesDirect group buy thread....

    Quote Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com View Post
    I think they are under clear
    and you would not want to remove them as that voids Vuelta warranty [as with most brands]
    Your fingernail may make a mess of the wheels...

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    yeah, everything I've read says they are heavy, but the site specs the pro sl wheelset at 1550. That's not heavy in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbsoluteZ3RO View Post
    yeah, everything I've read says they are heavy, but the site specs the pro sl wheelset at 1550. That's not heavy in my mind.
    Perhaps you missed the post in the thread:

    The Vuelta XRP wheels that are on Vuelta XRP's website ARE NOT the wheels in the group buy.

    Get that through your head.

    These are full carbon tubulars.

    The ones on their site are aluminum rimmed clinchers.

    The 50mm carbon tubulars being offered are around 1450g. As Mike has stated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
    Perhaps you missed the post in the thread:

    The Vuelta XRP wheels that are on Vuelta XRP's website ARE NOT the wheels in the group buy.

    Get that through your head.

    These are full carbon tubulars.

    The ones on their site are aluminum rimmed clinchers.

    The 50mm carbon tubulars being offered are around 1450g. As Mike has stated.
    I wasn't refering to the group buy wheels.

    I've heard that the Vuelta XRP wheels in general are heavy. However, the Road Pro SL wheels are stated as being <1550. http://vueltaxrpwheels.com/pro_sl.asp

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    I've got a pair of Vuelta Team SL's. Officially 1533g, (I didn't weigh them myself), came with rim strips, $270 and change. Found them on ebay, ordered from their website, arrived when they said they would, in perfect condition, true. I've ridden them ~200 miles, no problems, rides smooth, fast. I like the quiet rear hub. I like that they're medium flashy, yet obviously not big $$ show-off, yet not econo-Forte. I think they're an excellent value -- looks, weight, price.

    If you get them, don't toss the box nor the plastic axle end protectors. I took mine on a trip and the airline checked the box with no oversize fees, even though it measures 3 or 5 inches more than the 62 linear inch limit.

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    The Campy-compatible Vueltas that came with my Bottecchia were listed at 1900+ grams. They've got 3800 miles on them and have stayed true. I've little to compare them with but prefer them to the Alex 300's I later bought used. They are lighter (with the mounted tires) and seem more rigid in cornering. The bearings on the rear Vuelta seem to have a bit more friction than I am used to from older Campagnolo NR and Mirage hubs. The hubs are made by Joy-tech, I think.
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    This is from the Vueltaxrpwheels.com website.

    http://vueltaxrpwheels.com/carbon_sl.asp These are the clincher wheels being offered in the bikesdirect.com deal. These are not an aluminum rimmed 38 or 50mm cross section rim and Vuelta does not state that the wheel on their site has aluminum rims.


    Road Carbon Team SuperLite Wheels

    Rim: Carbon 50mm (700c)
    Bead: clincher

    Hub: Team SL Road
    Bearing: 2x5 precision
    Drilling: 20f/24r
    Pattern: radial / two cross
    Spoke Gauge: 2.8
    Spoke Profile: Aero-bladed
    Nipple: brass integrated
    Quick Release: cro-moly
    Spacing: 130mm
    Color: black

    Weight: 765g / 996g

    The bikesdirect offer has both tubular and clincher wheels offered. The Vuelta site does not show the tubular version. These are the clincher wheels being offered in the bikesdirect.com deal, albeit in a 38mm section. The bikesdirect guy has weighed them at close to 1600grams for the pair. Vuelta says they weigh qty. 100 of a product then publish the simple average as the weight of the product to compensate for individual variations in manufacturing. Vuelta's published weight is 1761grams for the pair, not particularly light, but wheels with 50 mm cross section carbon rims aren't made to be unusually light. They are made for their aerodynamic advantage. YMMV.
    Last edited by skinny; 12-04-07 at 08:50 AM.

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    I have a set that came on my CX bike. I have thrashed them in the rocks and roots and cx racing and they are still dead nut. so I think they are fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    This is from the Vueltaxrpwheels.com website.

    http://vueltaxrpwheels.com/carbon_sl.asp These are the clincher wheels being offered in the bikesdirect.com deal. These are not an aluminum rimmed 38 or 50mm cross section rim and Vuelta does not state that the wheel on their site has aluminum rims.


    Road Carbon Team SuperLite Wheels

    Rim: Carbon 50mm (700c)
    Bead: clincher

    Hub: Team SL Road
    Bearing: 2x5 precision
    Drilling: 20f/24r
    Pattern: radial / two cross
    Spoke Gauge: 2.8
    Spoke Profile: Aero-bladed
    Nipple: brass integrated
    Quick Release: cro-moly
    Spacing: 130mm
    Color: black

    Weight: 765g / 996g

    The bikesdirect offer has both tubular and clincher wheels offered. The Vuelta site does not show the tubular version. These are the clincher wheels being offered in the bikesdirect.com deal, albeit in a 38mm section. The bikesdirect guy has weighed them at close to 1600grams for the pair. Vuelta says they weigh qty. 100 of a product then publish the simple average as the weight of the product to compensate for individual variations in manufacturing. Vuelta's published weight is 1761grams for the pair, not particularly light, but wheels with 50 mm cross section carbon rims aren't made to be unusually light. They are made for their aerodynamic advantage. YMMV.
    Uhhhh those wheels you linked to most definitely have a aluminum rim. It's very visible in the picture.

    The wheels in the bikesdirect.com deal are both all-carbon. So, no, those are not the wheels being offered in the bikesdirect deal.

    If you actually looked at the information that Mike posted, that would be pretty apparent.
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    This is the correct information:

    Quote Originally Posted by bikesdirect_com View Post
    NOW FOR THE WHEELS
    SAMPLES LOOK GREAT

    BUT -- 38mm CLINCHER IS HEAVIER THAN I WAS QUOTED [THAT'S THE BAD NEWS]
    50mm CLINCHER WHICH I DID NOT ORDER IS LIGHTER THAN ORIGINAL QUOTE
    and 50mm SEWUP WHEEL SET IS LIGHTER THAN QUOTED [THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS]

    ALL THREE LOOK GREAT IN PERSON - MY ENTIRE STAFF IS IMPRESSED AND NOW THEY WANT ME TO SPEC THE SEWUP SET ON A BIKE! I'LL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT

    anyway here are my not too professional pictures in order of
    50mm wireon [f-692;r-913; total 1605]
    38mm wireon [f-680;r-930; total 1610]
    50mm sewup [f-612;r-845; total 1457]




    if ordering wheels please base decision off my actual weights
    I am trying to add 50mm wireon to my order since weight now looks better than before
    Notice that there is no aluminum rim? Yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
    Uhhhh those wheels you linked to most definitely have a aluminum rim. It's very visible in the picture.

    The wheels in the bikesdirect.com deal are both all-carbon. So, no, those are not the wheels being offered in the bikesdirect deal.

    If you actually looked at the information that Mike posted, that would be pretty apparent
    .
    How about you look at the pictures. That seems to be more your speed. The rest of us will read the specifications, which say carbon rim. . And I have read the info Mike posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    How about you look at the pictures. That seems to be more your speed. The rest of us will read the specifications, which say carbon rim. . And I have read the info Mike posted.
    So, Mike has said that his wheels are a full carbon clincher. They weigh significantly less than these.

    The Vuelta XRP wheels have multiple pictures with an aluminum rim, and no where on there does it say "full carbon clincher". They also weigh what an aluminum-rimmed clincher would. You'd have to have lead spokes and mercury-greased hubs for a full carbon, 50mm rimmed wheelset to weigh that much.

    Just like with carbon forks: you can have a full carbon fork, or a carbon fork with an aluminum steerer, and each of them are called carbon forks. Both of these products are carbon rims; the difference is one is fully carbon, the other is an aluminum rim bonded to a carbon fairing, a la Zipp and Mavic. Yet we still call those carbon rims, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
    So, Mike has said that his wheels are a full carbon clincher. They weigh significantly less than these.

    The Vuelta XRP wheels have multiple pictures with an aluminum rim, and no where on there does it say "full carbon clincher".
    They also weigh what an aluminum-rimmed clincher would.

    Just like with carbon forks: you can have a full carbon fork, or a carbon fork with an aluminum steerer, and each of them are called carbon forks. Both of these products are carbon rims; the difference is one is fully carbon, the other is an aluminum rim bonded to a carbon fairing, a la Zipp and Mavic. Yet we still call those carbon rims, right?
    Carbon wheelsets vary in weight depending on the manufacturer. The standard, Zipp 404, have a published weight of 1670gr a pair, which is 4-5% more than the ones the bikedirect guy weighed. YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    Carbon wheelsets vary in weight depending on the manufacturer. The standard, Zipp 404, have a published weight of 1670gr a pair, which is 4-5% more than the ones the bikedirect guy weighed. YMMV.
    Which makes sense given their 8mm increase in rim depth (Zipps being 58mm).

    Do you agree with me now that the Vuelta wheels listed on their site aren't the ones Mike has in the group buy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
    Which makes sense given their 8mm increase in rim depth (Zipps being 58mm).
    Given this logic, why do the 38mm depth rims Mike weighed weigh more than the 50mm depth rims???


    Quote Originally Posted by Duke of Kent View Post
    Do you agree with me now that the Vuelta wheels listed on their site aren't the ones Mike has in the group buy?
    I really don't agree with most of the crap you post on these forums. I think you should go to your bedroom now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny View Post
    Given this logic, why do the 38mm depth rims Mike weighed weigh more than the 50mm depth rims???


    I really don't agree with most of the crap you post on these forums. I think you should go to your bedroom now.
    Differences in manufacturing processes, the actual manufacturer, spoke length, nipple material, spoke choice, etc. All of them can lead to variance. Because these wheels, particularly the rims, are certainly not made by Vuelta XRP.

    But you thought of all of that, right?
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