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Who makes the STIFFEST sub 1500g clincher wheelset?

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Old 06-02-06, 09:50 PM
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Check out the Ritchey WCS Protocols. Bicycling magazine found these to be the stiffest of the 3 "mid" priced wheels sets they reviewed. You can find the review at the magazine's website.

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Are you looking for lateral stiffness or radial stiffness?
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
Are you looking for lateral stiffness or radial stiffness?
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Campy Proton or Neutron with rear off-center spoke hole drilling should be good too, and the newer Shimano wheels with off-center spokes should be good as well (same patent Ritchey is licensing).
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Any deep section wheels are going to be more laterally stiff than similar spoke count lower profile wheels. The spoke angle gets further off perpendicular with a deeper profile, which makes for a more triangular geometry.

I'd research the deep carbon Zipps.
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Zipp 404 clinchers are very stiff, also mavic carbone pros, campy boras. Or you could go tubular and buy a set of light weights
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Originally Posted by alraicercsu
Zipp 404 clinchers are very stiff,

Everybody says that, but it hasn't been my experience. Out of the saddle I can flex the rear enough to rub the brakepad pretty easily. To the point I have to flip the quick release open going uphill.
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Cool. thanks.

What about the Topolino wheels?
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topolinos are pretty stiff, but on my last two climbs up palomar, i've experienced a little brake rub. this, though, is more due to there being a little play in the hub. the first time, i didn't have the tools to rectify the problem while on the ride, then i totally forgot about it before putting them back on the bike and doing the same ride a few days later.

actually, thanks for reminding me. gonna go fix that right now!
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Originally Posted by irablumberg
Check out the Ritchey WCS Protocols. Bicycling magazine found these to be the stiffest of the 3 "mid" priced wheels sets they reviewed. You can find the review at the magazine's website.
Knowing Buycycling Mag, they probably didn't actually test for lateral stiffness... they just went by "feel". Opinions like that are useless since feelings can be all over the place, plus they don't isolate the variables... ie other things are changing besides the wheels.

Everyone claims the Ksyriums are stiff wheels... but they really aren't. See #96 and #97:
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/wheel/data.htm

Strength of a wheel is important, but I don't think stiffness is really an issue unless it gets extreme. If the brakes are rubbing, then open them up a little.
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Originally Posted by rruff
Knowing Buycycling Mag, they probably didn't actually test for lateral stiffness... they just went by "feel". Opinions like that are useless since feelings can be all over the place, plus they don't isolate the variables... ie other things are changing besides the wheels.

Everyone claims the Ksyriums are stiff wheels... but they really aren't. See #96 and #97:
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/wheel/data.htm

Strength of a wheel is important, but I don't think stiffness is really an issue unless it gets extreme. If the brakes are rubbing, then open them up a little.
That page has a copyright statement on it from 1999 ... and it lists wheels that don't exists anymore.
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Originally Posted by alraicercsu
Zipp 404 clinchers are very stiff, also mavic carbone pros, campy boras. Or you could go tubular and buy a set of light weights

I don't think they are less than 1500 grams though!
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unless you're running cheap wheels (which i don't), is lateral stiffness that noticable or that important? i was just curious because i like to spin up hills on the geared bike and i'm not heavy, so i don't notice lateral flex... now on the fixed gear, i have to mash up some of the bigger hills b/c i run a steep gear, but i don't have brakes so i don't really notice flexing or rubbing
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Originally Posted by MacMan
Originally Posted by rruff
Knowing Buycycling Mag, they probably didn't actually test for lateral stiffness... they just went by "feel". Opinions like that are useless since feelings can be all over the place, plus they don't isolate the variables... ie other things are changing besides the wheels.

Everyone claims the Ksyriums are stiff wheels... but they really aren't. See #96 and #97:
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/wheel/data.htm

Strength of a wheel is important, but I don't think stiffness is really an issue unless it gets extreme. If the brakes are rubbing, then open them up a little.
That page has a copyright statement on it from 1999 ... and it lists wheels that don't exists anymore.
+1 I'm not expert but i think companies MAY have improved wheel designe's in the past 6 years... just guessing though....
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Ksyrium SLs are quite stiff and very close to 1500g.
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Originally Posted by SDRider
Ksyrium SLs are quite stiff and very close to 1500g.
If 1600 grams is "close" to 1500
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