Shimano much better than Campag
06-04-06, 02:17 PM
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I've only used hubs from each. DA NJS track, and Campy Record Track/Road combo. I only have a few miles on the Campys so far, but they feel like much nicer wheels. Both are 36 spoke, the campy is high flange and the DA is low. Both are loose bearing. DA has conti grand prix 3000 clinchers, and the campy's got conti sprinter tubulars.
I think I'm going to ride the campy a whole lot more, though I'll be in constant fear of a flat for awhile. No spare tire...
I think I'm going to ride the campy a whole lot more, though I'll be in constant fear of a flat for awhile. No spare tire...
06-04-06, 02:54 PM
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Suntour Friction barends rule!
If you really want to have this technology is better thread lets get down to the truth. No other system is more reliable for shifting than barend shifters. No other system brings the ability to drop shift without spending tons of money. No STI or Campy Ergo system is still going to pull a shift cable after twenty years. I don't think many people rebuild or repair STI/ERGO maybe it will become a trade like rebuilding carbureators. Who knows. I once desired STI/ERGO but now I am content with technology that works. The bottom line is STI/ERGO is made for professionals who need to shift faster. Nobody can refute the benefits and common sense approac to barend shifting. I prefer the Ultegra barend to the Ultegra STI because I had one lever fail. I dont understand why the big companies don't make a more ergonomic ratchet mechanism like the bar end in a trigger shift type fashion. It could be placed on the hoods and and on the drops. I suppose 25-50grams extra weight is too much for the industry to sell.
06-04-06, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Wil Davis
so… if they're so bloody small, then they don't need a kid's version… surely… ??? 
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I kid, I kid...
06-04-06, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SoreFeet
If you really want to have this technology is better thread lets get down to the truth. No other system is more reliable for shifting than barend shifters.
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I don't get it. My Dura-Ace bike is reliable and darn good looking. I'm thinking of building a Campy bike but I doubt it will be greatly superior to the Shimano.
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06-04-06, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
Why are barend shifters more reliable than downtube shifters?
slide down and not work and stuff.
06-04-06, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by killsoft
Because they're on the END of the bar, see, and the DOWNtube shifters might
slide down and not work and stuff.
slide down and not work and stuff.
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06-04-06, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
Thats why my DT shifters have this handy backup device:
06-04-06, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SoreFeet
The bottom line is STI/ERGO is made for professionals who need to shift faster.
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06-04-06, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Crayon
Please don't feed the TROLL!
06-04-06, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by brundle_fly
Just my opinion after test driving a bike equiped with the latest Campag Mirage shifters/gears.There was no comparison.My Tiagra set is much more smoother and lighter when changing.
I now see why Pinarello went from Mirage 2005 to Tiagra on their 2006 entry bikes.
Dura-ace is way smoother and way way way more reliable.
The hell with the Italians.
06-05-06, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by onkey
I've ridden Campy Record and it sucks.
Dura-ace is way smoother and way way way more reliable.
Dura-ace is way smoother and way way way more reliable.
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06-05-06, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Olebiker
What you call "smoother" I call vague and imprecise. I much prefer the solid feel of Campy shifting. As for reliability, you are the only person I have ever heard claim that Dura Ace is more reliable. What do you base that assessment on?
06-05-06, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by botto
dude, didn't anyone ever teach you to let sleeping dogs lie
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06-05-06, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by brundle_fly
Mybe the thread was a bad idea.Let's call them evens
06-06-06, 12:22 AM
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Most Shimano guys have never ridden Campy for any length of time. I ride both on a daily basis and believe that Shimano has a good product, but Campy is just superior. Campy's more ergonomic, repairable, you can dump rear cogs, and it just looks great.
06-06-06, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by pickettt
Most Shimano guys have never ridden Campy for any length of time. I ride both on a daily basis and believe that Shimano has a good product, but Campy is just superior. Campy's more ergonomic, repairable, you can dump rear cogs, and it just looks great.
06-06-06, 06:57 AM
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Cammy or Shimammy......... they both work better on steel!
