Wheelset Upgrade??
07-12-06, 12:35 AM
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Wheelset Upgrade??
hello. I have a 2005 Rocky Mountain Solo AL:30 Road bike with full 105-9spd. I am currently racing on it and it came with some Mavic MA3 rims. i would like to upgrade my wheelset to something high end so i can put them onto my new bike when i can afford it.
i am looking at a few and maybe you can suggest and rate the ones you think would be the best for racing and possibly training. i am 5'11 180lbs junior rider.
Mavic Ksyrium ES
Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL
Spinergy Stealth PBO
Fulcrum Racing 1
HED Jet 50
HED Stinger 60
by the way, the price range is not a huge issue for me so be open and voice your honest opinions!
Any comments or if you have used these please help me in my choice. Much appreciated.
-mike.
i am looking at a few and maybe you can suggest and rate the ones you think would be the best for racing and possibly training. i am 5'11 180lbs junior rider.
Mavic Ksyrium ES
Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL
Spinergy Stealth PBO
Fulcrum Racing 1
HED Jet 50
HED Stinger 60
by the way, the price range is not a huge issue for me so be open and voice your honest opinions!
Any comments or if you have used these please help me in my choice. Much appreciated.
-mike.
07-12-06, 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by goldbam
Okay thats it!!! I'm so fed up with all of these stinking Mike Garcia shims, assuming this is what you are implying, if not, I appologize.
negatory, never owned a set nor will I ever buy a set of Mark Garcia wheels. (Unless Im in the states, mote my location <---).
I just prefer handbuilt wheels because they are the parts you want and for someone (like myself) that knows sweet **** all about wheel maintennce (except hub adjustment and noticing the wheel isn't true), a hand made wheel is ready to go.
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Wow.... your wheels are going to be worth more then your frame and bike. Do you want tubular or clinchers? Carbon or aluminum?
I have heard a lot of good things about Reynold stratus DV wheels...... seems to be on of the most used wheels on the race scene (except for Zipp, but these are acutally durable)
I have heard a lot of good things about Reynold stratus DV wheels...... seems to be on of the most used wheels on the race scene (except for Zipp, but these are acutally durable)
07-12-06, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by goldbam
Okay thats it!!! I'm so fed up with all of these stinking Mike Garcia shims, assuming this is what you are implying, if not, I appologize. I must voice this issue!THEY AREN'T THAT GREAT!!!!!! They may be nice, but in no way shape or form, are they necessarily better than a nice set of Machined rims like Mavic, Bontrager, Zipp, Easton, Reynolds, Ritchey etc. I might add that it is no hidden truth that most Mike Garcia lover's are 40+ years old, do not race, and have just as many miles on they're bike as they themselves, not that theres anything wrong with this. My point is simply that I have been racing for a couple years now, and I have NEVER seen a pair of handbuilt rims being used, and I've seen alot of racing! I even asked one of my coaches, who was the Elite National champion, and he said that he hadn't even heard of Mike Garcia! Now I'm sorry to rant on like this, I love handbuilt rims like that but I'm sick of all of the one-sided BF'rs in these forums that market that Handbuilt rims like they're on an infomercial. I would like to believe that a nice pair of Mavic's or another top brand is the best kind of wheel for racing, based on sheer observation and expirience. And folks, lets leave the Garcia's for the training and hobbyist riding.
Boutique wheels in general are fine for racing, but they are no better than a well-configured set of handbuilts that cost 1/2 to 2/3 as much. The handbuilts are MUCH easier/cheaper to maintain. There is zero performance benefit to boutique wheels, and many of them are poorly built. You can choose parts that are just as light, or lighter, and pick your own lacing pattern, spokes, nipples, and hub to get the balance you need between cost, weight, and strength. You can even get deep Zipp carbon rims if you like.
If you race me, you will race against someone with handbuilts -- and mine are heavy training wheels. And I'm 35. I only do 2 or 3 races a year around Austin these days, but I successfully raced handbuilts as a Cat 3 in Colorado. In the King of Jester this year, my 3:15 time put me within 10s or less of a bunch of Cat 3s I talked to and/or know. I can TT on my wheels at 25mph, and sprint like, well, I'm a sprinter.
The wheels are not holding me back. They don't make me faster either...
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get velomax circuits, on sale now at fine stores everywhere, and save your money.
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Originally Posted by domestique
Wow.... your wheels are going to be worth more then your frame and bike. ...
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07-12-06, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by domestique
Wow.... your wheels are going to be worth more then your frame and bike. Do you want tubular or clinchers? Carbon or aluminum?
I have heard a lot of good things about Reynold stratus DV wheels...... seems to be on of the most used wheels on the race scene (except for Zipp, but these are acutally durable)
I have heard a lot of good things about Reynold stratus DV wheels...... seems to be on of the most used wheels on the race scene (except for Zipp, but these are acutally durable)
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Assuming you are running Shimano, get a custom wheelbuild using Dura-Ace hubs (or DT, or Chris Kings), some light rims (you pick) and some high-tech spokes like DT Revolutions or Sapim CX-Rays. At your weight, I would suggest 32h/3x in rear and perhaps 28h/2x in front.
These will be nice, light, strong wheels for less money than some on your list. And as others have noted, they will probably (if well-built) be more reliable and will definitely be more easily serviced.
These will be nice, light, strong wheels for less money than some on your list. And as others have noted, they will probably (if well-built) be more reliable and will definitely be more easily serviced.
07-12-06, 02:47 PM
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are there any differences between the ksyrium es and ssc sl's ?
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any suggestions?
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Originally Posted by mikev102
are there any differences between the ksyrium es and ssc sl's ?
Also check out the American Classic wheelsets. Many people on this forum badmouth them, but they are almost as common as Mavics here. In my experience, they do not have a bad reputation outside of BikeForums.
***Disclaimer, I have never ridden any of these wheels***
07-12-06, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by goldbam
And why, pray tell, can I not make the assumption that 'boutique' wheels are better based on the fact that they are used 99% of the time in racing? You almost cant prove a single thing against me based on this. In fact, I wonder how you even can prove your case that racers are "gear heads". I see no real value in your statements.
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Although I'm a satisfied owner of a set of Ksyrium SL, I'll still say all of these wheels should perform about the same and, unfortunately, will perform about the same as what you have. The differences between these wheels and wheels that cost twice as much and wheels that cost half as much are very subtle indeed. At least they are subtle enough that any differences between them are lost on me. Therefore you should just buy whatever appeals to you for whatever reason. That's why I bought the Ksyriums and the Topolinos before that etc. etc.
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Originally Posted by rapidcarbon
I would suggest Campy Eurus (they are hand built too, yes, every single one of them)
