Does this klein frame look like a fake?
07-12-06, 02:22 PM
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Does this klein frame look like a fake?
I saw this frame on Ebay and was suspect of it being a fake. The welds on the seat tube do not look like typical klein welds. It does not appear that the head tube is flared at the ends for the headset. What do you Klein owners think? Is it real or a fake?
https://cgi.ebay.com/New-2006-Klein-Q...QQcmdZViewItem
https://cgi.ebay.com/New-2006-Klein-Q...QQcmdZViewItem
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My God you can't see it for the bubble wrap. Who would know! They are hiding something or they would have photo'd w/out the wrap.
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Originally Posted by CastIron
Caveat emptor.
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Originally Posted by hi565
For those who dont know latin...That means "let the buyer beware"
Or in laymens terms.................."They are hiding something or they would have photo'd w/out the wrap."
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email the guy.. he has really good feedback, so who knows.. it literally could be brand new in the bubble wrap.
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Yup, that's Klein bubble wrap, alright. I could spot their bubble wrap from a mile away!
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looks real to me, correct headtube badge and the fade on the seatstays for that model
guy has good feedback
seems real, looks real
6 days to go--probably will go up considerably
nice frame
guy has good feedback
seems real, looks real
6 days to go--probably will go up considerably
nice frame
07-12-06, 05:17 PM
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It would be funny if the winner only got bubble wrap! LMAO!
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Those welds at the seat tube/rear triangle look surprisingly crappy and bubbly for a Klein frame of that level. Not saying that it isn't legit... i'm just very surprised. I've never seen an upper-level AL Klein frame with visible welds of any kind - they're normally so smooth that the frame looks like it's painted carbon. Maybe the quality of the workmanship has changed within the past year or two.
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Looks real to me. Headbadge and paint look correct, rear dropouts look to be the Klein style rear entry design, and the downtube looks to have the appropriate shaping. No guarentees, but with good feedback I wouldn't be too concnerned.
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why would anybody fake a Klein frame?
07-13-06, 05:01 AM
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I dunno, while the geometry and fading paint looks right, that weld just looks fishy. I have an '05 Rêve V, which is their cheapest road bike, and the welds are smooth as butter. There's no way their '06 bikes can be so much worse, especially a Q-Pro. I also can't see the name Klein on the frame either. Maybe it is a legit frame, but it's been repaired/repainted? I'd definitely get the guy to unwrap the thing and take some good photos.
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07-13-06, 07:48 AM
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None of the welds on my Klein mountain bike look like that. If it is a Klein and that is a big IF, then it is a actory reject or something they used to train people how not to weld a Klein frame.
+1 on the bubble wrap comments.
+1 on the bubble wrap comments.
07-13-06, 07:56 AM
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Ask the guy to take another picture of the bike outside of the bubble wrap. It sure looks like a Klein but with the wrap on it you can't tell.
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