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Old 09-19-06, 08:36 PM   #276
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Rad you were wondering about the difference in tops on the Hoods. The Grey one has the removable cap, where are the white one requires a punch out.

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My brake pads for the Delta brakes came in today, so tonight I did a brake job on the Deltas. Let me preface this with my PC would not start, there was power to the Mother board, but it would not start. It ended up being a power supply, so I pulled out a spare one and replaced the power supply in my main PC tonight first. This was cutting into my bicycle tinkering....


The pads were Original replacement Campagnolo Deltas Pads, based on the packaging, they look recently manufactured in this era. Judging by the pliability of them compared to the old used up ones, they felt safe to use. It was actually funny how hard the old ones were compared to the new pads.



Packaged in 4. When the LBS handed me the box, I asked if there was 4 pads in there. He said "There better be for that price!" ($42)


Quite a bit more pad compared to the old ones.



Brakes with old pads



Old pad removed, new pad compared to it.


I sprayed the pads and shoes with a bit of Silicone lubricant to make assembly easier



Using a vice as a press aided sliding the pads into the shoes


New versus old


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Back Brake complete


Both brakes done. They really fit the rims much better now.
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She's coming along nicely.
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Very nice job. Did you order extras? In other words, what happens when these wear out?
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Thanks Drag

Here are some Jewelery Shots












I had really wanted to build these wheels myself, however if I done get the bike done soon, I may not be riding it this year. So when i was at the LBS picking up my brake pads, I discussed him building my wheels. He has all the parts I require, and he was even suggesting a few lacing patterns I should try. I may just let him build them for me.

While I was there, I also took a few Cross Bikes out for a test ride... I took a Redline out and a Norco, it was fun but weird. I felt confuseded, as it felt like a Road bike, yet somehow like a MTB
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Very nice job. Did you order extras? In other words, what happens when these wear out?
I'll cross that bridge when I come to it

I followed Rad's lead and bought a set of Scott/Mathauser pads.

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Ok then, I feel much better. I would hate to see you give the bike away in a year or so because you couldn't replace the pads. As to the wheels, I think you should build them yourself. You have far to much invested in this bike, and I don't mean just the money, to outsource the work.
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Ok then, I feel much better. I would hate to see you give the bike away in a year or so because you couldn't replace the pads. As to the wheels, I think you should build them yourself. You have far to much invested in this bike, and I don't mean just the money, to outsource the work.


I hear you Blandin, part of me really doesn't want to let it go, and would rather do it myself. However this guy is a much better wheel builder than I am. He builds most of the racers carbon wheels around here.



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ViperZ, I've been following this thread and I was wondering when you would finally get around to showing us some proper hubs I agree that those C-Record hubs are in fact functional jewelry. And nothing makes or breaks a ride more than the wheels.

I have to ask: what make and model camera do you possess? Perhaps someone has already asked this before, but I seem to have missed the answer. Whatever it is, it does your thread justice. Nothing like quality pics to go along with the quality build-up.

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Great bicycle and photos!
A question: when did Campagnolo start to label their products in English ('locked')?
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ViperZ, I've been following this thread and I was wondering when you would finally get around to showing us some proper hubs I agree that those C-Record hubs are in fact functional jewelry. And nothing makes or breaks a ride more than the wheels.

I have to ask: what make and model camera do you possess? Perhaps someone has already asked this before, but I seem to have missed the answer. Whatever it is, it does your thread justice. Nothing like quality pics to go along with the quality build-up.

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LittleGinseng, Thanks! I use a Nikon 5700, 5 MP.



It's been a good camera, however I could use an upgrade. I have been wanting a Nikon D200, however I may hold off as a D80 10.2 MP unit will be coming out soon and it will be priced a bit better.



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A question: when did Campagnolo start to label their products in English ('locked')?
Thanks! I don't know Italian, but a Google translation indicates "Locked" in English, is the same in Italian

A scan of the parts show that most all the engraving on Campy parts is in English. The box the hubs came in is all mainly Italian though.

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I was going to build the wheels myself, however I decided to let a local guy at the LBS build them instead... I have known him for a long time and I trust his ability. When I brought in the parts, he immediately dropped what he was doing to have a look see. Quite a few people were salivating over the hubs, which is remarkable as you would think they have seen it all. They drooled over the Campy hubs, stating there is nothing like them today

So Doug and I start discussing the build, I tell him I mean no offence, but could he make it so certain labels and decals are orientated a certain way... He looked at me with a smile and started explaining to me how he uses reference points for the build, and how once aligned you can see a direct path from the valve stem to the hub name to the decal on the other side of the rim... (signs of a master builder) He took quite some time showing and explaining to me how he was going to build the wheels. He then stated how he could not wait to build them and how much he was going to enjoy this build. I know I have found the right guy!

So I called later on just to talk freewheels with him as he was going to look into something for me. He explained a lot of various things to me on the phone. When I asked him how the wheels were going, he told me he had the back wheel laced and was starting to tension the spokes up. He then told me how nice it was to work on something so beautiful and how much he was enjoying this. He actually was gratefull for allowing him to work on something that brought back so many memories.... "I use to work on this stuff when I started as a mechanic..." he said. This from a guy that builds High-Tech Carbon wheels all the time.

I definitely know I found the right guy!

He was willing to do funky lacing patterns like radial on the Non drive, cross 3 on the drive, but in the end I decided I wanted the classic look of a cross 3 pattern. I chose 14-15-14 double butted spokes with Silver Alloy nipples. I was was thinking a black color nipple for a bit, but then reverted back to the classic Silver look.
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I can't wait to see the finished wheels.

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Thats awesome man...I can't believe this bike you're building! damn near perfection...if not perfection itself, as far as bicyclistic beauty goes.

i am more excited to see this bike completed than i am to see ***gasp....the HORROR that i'm saying this*** Rad's forty-year-paint-project finally completed.
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...but in the end I decided I wanted the classic look of a cross 3 pattern.
Right on! You make me proud.
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Great story. Sounds like you made a very good decision.
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Thanks Guys, I can't wait to see them myself

Doug said they would be ready tomorrow, and to pick them up when I come home from work. I'll have to strap them to my pack or something
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i am more excited to see this bike completed than i am to see ***gasp....the HORROR that i'm saying this*** Rad's forty-year-paint-project finally completed.
That's it. Just for that, I'm postponing the reveal for another month.

Sweet story on the wheels Viper - I bet they'll look great.
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i am more excited to see this bike completed than i am to see ***gasp....the HORROR that i'm saying this*** Rad's forty-year-paint-project finally completed.
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That's it. Just for that, I'm postponing the reveal for another month.
Nooooo... Don't be doing that As soon as she's ready to show, I want it straight up!
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Wow, I can't wait to see the completed wheel! So what tires did you select - sorry if I missed it elsewhere in the thread.

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Hi John, I have a stock of Vittoria Corsa CX that I think I'll put on for now. I know they are a modern Black wall, however I like the look of black wall tires, and have actually despised natural gum wall tires forever. I actually use to use a black jiffy marker on my tires for the blacked out look, back when I was a young tad

I may see about getting a set just to see how it looks for period correctness, but I would not be holding my breath
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He was willing to do funky lacing patterns like radial on the Non drive cross 3 on the drive, but in the end I decided I wanted the classic look of a cross 3 pattern. I chose 14-15-14 double butted spokes with Silver Alloy nipples. I was was thinking a black color nipple, but then reverted back to the classic Silver look I was after.
I was in a quandary regarding the wheel rebuild for my Serotta. I had considered doing the 14/15 3X but decided to have Mike Garcia use lighter spokes in a 2X (front) 2X/3X (rear) since I was using Velocity Aeroheads instead of era-specific rims like you are using. You made a good decision for your wheelset...
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