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Old 09-22-06, 07:43 AM   #301
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I have a stock of Vittoria Corsa CX that I think I'll put on for now. I know they are a modern Black wall, however I like the look of black wall tires, and have actually despised natural gum wall tires forever. I actually use to use a black jiffy marker on my tires for the blacked out look, back when I was a young tad

You sir are an absolute disgrace. I'm shocked. When I was a kid my Dad would have taken my bike off me or made me race on clinchers or train with ugly women or something equally horrible for performing vandalism of this magnitude. And rightly so too.

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You sir are an absolute disgrace. I'm shocked. When I was a kid my Dad would have taken my bike off me or made me race on clinchers or train with ugly women or something equally horrible for performing vandalism of this magnitude. And rightly so too.

...(classic wanders off muttering to himself)...


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I was in a quandary regarding the wheel rebuild for my Serotta. I had considered doing the 14/15 3X but decided to have Mike Garcia use lighter spokes in a 2X (front) 2X/3X (rear) since I was using Velocity Aeroheads instead of era-specific rims like you are using. You made a good decision for your wheelset...
The joys of a personal bike that is not specific to a period...
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True enough. I'll have pictures forthcoming when the frameset is returned. The guys at Serotta stated 3 - 4 weeks for the paint job. I'm guessing it'll be together around late October which will give me enough time to ride, report, and photograph it...

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True enough. I'll have pictures fortcoming when the frameset is returned. The guys at Serotta stated 3 - 4 weeks for the paint job. I'm guessing it'll be together around late October which will give me enough time to ride, report, and photograph it...

Nice, That is going to be a nice ride. Can't wait to see it!

All though I have a few future projects in the plans, one that I would desparately like is a solid steel frame that I can custom paint and do whatever I please to as well, free from all the constraints that typically dictate my life. One that isn't too nice, but isn't too trashy either. I have been keeping my eyes open

Bright Cherry Metallic Red paint, full radial 32 hole front, radial/cross in back, or even Newer wheels. Mix of Shimano and Campy equipment (why not??? it's my custom and I can break all the rules I want ), Banana seat with sissy bar... opps.... wrong idea/project

Seriously, I would love a custom steel bike



Hey Classic, although I should be tarred and feathered for Jiffy marking my tires to black back in the 80's, look at how ahead of the times I was, whats that term....? "Trend Setter?"

Obviously for historic significance I would not do that today to classic vintage equipment tires, but you never know.... I have a dark streak in me!
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My lone near-future project involves an aluminum frame (not yet purchased). I figure I have titanium and lugged steel I should add an aluminum bike to the stable. I've been kicking around the idea of either a single speed commuter or another road bike with--get this--105 9 speed. I have Ultegra 10 and Dura Ace 8 so I *must* fill in the gap with 9 speed 105. It should be a fairly inexpensive project.

My distant-future project is a Vanilla or Sachs. I'm leaning heavily toward Vanilla. So much so that I am probably sending Sacha a downpayment for a frameset by the end of the year. It'll be high end with some carbon bits and Dura Ace 10...

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Hey ViperZ, for that full custom paint steel idea, might I suggest looking for a nice Centurion Ironman or simular made Japanese steel frame. Quality Tange #1 or #2 steel rides well, decent weight, and they aren't a collectors item so do what you want with it. I painted a lower end Centurion to turn it into my Barracuda Mk.I. Though, I repainted it "almost" the same color as it started as!
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That's it. Just for that, I'm postponing the reveal for another month.
OH SH!+!!!! I TAKE IT BACK! I TAKE IT BACK!

There are A LOT of people on this forum who will hunt me down and whip me with old derraileur cables till i bleed to death if I end up being the reason that they don't get to see pics of that bike!!!
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My distant-future project is a Vanilla or Sachs. I'm leaning heavily toward Vanilla. So much so that I am probably sending Sacha a downpayment for a frameset by the end of the year. It'll be high end with some carbon bits and Dura Ace 10...

A down payment on a Sach's 52 months out... I too have entertained a Down payment on a Custom, but not a Sach's, I could not wait that long. Maybe I could but just don't know it?
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Hey ViperZ, for that full custom paint steel idea, might I suggest looking for a nice Centurion Ironman or simular made Japanese steel frame. Quality Tange #1 or #2 steel rides well, decent weight, and they aren't a collectors item so do what you want with it. I painted a lower end Centurion to turn it into my Barracuda Mk.I. Though, I repainted it "almost" the same color as it started as!
Your'e reading my mind Cuda... A Japanese Steel would be excellent for my 8speed Dura Ace components, and I could experiment with finishes, and painted fenders and all that jazz. Still I would really like a new MTB
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I picked up my Wheels today after work. They turned out excellent. I came home, mounted the tires on it, and put them on the bike.


The whole package is incredibly beautiful!! I have not even ridden it yet, and something tells me this is going to be my favorite bike, or at least my prettiest bike. Shhhhh..... don't tell the others
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And so where are the pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And so where are the pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pictures....?

I can post pictures here?

Well the bike is far from finished, but OK, you twisted my arm. I'll have to set up to take some for you. Give me a bit
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A down payment on a Sach's 52 months out... I too have entertained a Down payment on a Custom, but not a Sach's, I could not wait that long. Maybe I could but just don't know it?
Viper - Sorry about the "Sachs"/"Sacha" confusion. Sacha White is Vanilla Bicycles. Sachs is, of course, Richard Sachs. I'm leaning toward a Vanilla due to the build timeframe (18 months opposed to 52 months), the cost ($2100 opposed to $2700+), and because I really dig Sacha's style...
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Viper - Sorry about the "Sachs"/"Sacha" confusion. Sacha White is Vanilla Bicycles. Sachs is, of course, Richard Sachs. I'm leaning toward a Vanilla due to the build timeframe (18 months opposed to 52 months), the cost ($2100 opposed to $2700+), and because I really dig Sacha's style...

Vanilla Bike= thejam. They have some sexy lugwork. I would wait 19 months for one though.
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They have some sexy lugwork.
Dead sexy. Dammit, the more I think about it the more stoked I am. I may be sending payment this weekend if I can contact Sacha...
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A down payment on a Sach's 52 months out... I too have entertained a Down payment on a Custom, but not a Sach's, I could not wait that long. Maybe I could but just don't know it?
My Custom steel CX was done in about 6 months from Curtlo. Carl Strong is running around 6 months right now as well.
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[QUOTE=ViperZ]I picked up my Wheels today after work. They turned out excellent. I came home, mounted the tires on it, and put them on the bike.QUOTE]



Man, I just discovered this thread. What a beautiful and classic build. Not trying to steal your show, but wanted to show the alternative wheels (also Italian) that would've gone great with your bike. Just had these built up on my Record hubs for my '91 Tommasini, that coincidently is a 'build-in-progress' much like yours.

http://forums.roadbikereview.com/sho...sio+excellence
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Sorry Guys, I have to head out and take my lovely wife to a movie... So this is all i have time for right now.



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Like every porn master, tease them just enough to make them come back for more . . .
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Hey Classic, although I should be tarred and feathered for Jiffy marking my tires to black back in the 80's, look at how ahead of the times I was, whats that term....? "Trend Setter?"

Obviously for historic significance I would not do that today to classic vintage equipment tires, but you never know.... I have a dark streak in me!

(classic shakes head in disgust)
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Dead sexy. Dammit, the more I think about it the more stoked I am. I may be sending payment this weekend if I can contact Sacha...
What about Columbine? they do some crazy lugwork... and another guy down in Australia builds very pretty bikes, too
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I'm guessing you are referring to Llewellyn redfooj?

There's a website. http://www.llewellynbikes.com/main.htm
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those wheels look positively HOT. the hubs are jewel like and the rims are just plain sexy.

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ViperZ, let me say...[edit] um, nevermind
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