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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    Humm, I have always just used a Lithium grease like Finsh Line universally when rebuilding headsets, bottom brackets, hubs..etc... I should use something else?
    No, I'm no expert, just asking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 55/Rad
    Shimano grease on a Campy headset? Blasphemy!
    Wait until I run the Shimano Wheels and Dura Ace Chain



    Quote Originally Posted by Reynolds
    No, I'm no expert, just asking...
    Ahh... It works, and I rebuild often enough so it seems fine. I suppose a person could use more exotic stuff just for the sake of it I remember back in the day I got a tube of off road logging truck grease that me and my buddies used on our MTB's bottom brackets, we felt it made us impervious to the total submersion riding we use to always do in the river and streams

    Truth be told it may have worked, but I tore apart my MTB monthly and re built it just because I liked doing it. It helped to prolong the parts, and kept everything running smooth.
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    I've got Marine grease in just about every hub, headset, etc I've ever rebuilt. Hasn't let me down yet, though I certainly don't rebuild as often as Viper seems to enjoy. Maybe if I had a better place than the spare bathroom in the apartment to do dirty work on the bikes I would.

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    It helps to have a good shop area, which use to be in my garage. I have now moved my bike tools and stand into my work shop in the basement.

    Marine grease, sounds good
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    Humm, I have always just used a Lithium grease like Finsh Line universally when rebuilding headsets, bottom brackets, hubs..etc... I should use something else?
    Phil grease. I swear by that ****.
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    I explained that he could never pay me enough cash for the amount of work I had put into that bike and the only way to compensate me for it was to ride the hell out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by el twe
    Phil grease. I swear by that ****.
    Classic stuff


    No Updates, waiting for the gears. I haven't installed the headset yet.
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    Just saw these pics Viper as my computer was down for repairs and I could't see some pics on my Palm. HOLY $hit that bike is hot!! Just pure class. Gotta do a spread with all three when done.
    I feel like a soiled kleenex dropped in the gutter in the red-light district of Paris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daytonian
    Just saw these pics Viper as my computer was down for repairs and I could't see some pics on my Palm. HOLY $hit that bike is hot!! Just pure class. Gotta do a spread with all three when done.
    Thanks Daytonian.

    The ride evaluation is going to be interesting. I'm sure it's going to be a bit cantankerous in operation compared to a modern bicycle, however that not withstanding, I know it's going to be a silky smooth ride, even if the frame is flexy. Steel Colnagos have always been said to have fantastic ride qualities and very good handling traits when set up properly. I'll find out for myself if this is reasonably true.
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    There is one minor update in that I've started to run the cables for the derailleurs. I Had these black ones that were sitting around and look perfect. I know they are not real era correct, and I was going to use silver for the classic look, but I think these look even better because they become invisible against the bike, not detracting from the tubing.

    Sure they show up in this picture against a white background, however they really blend in nicely with the frame. And it's not as if my cables in general are era correct

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    So what's the ETA to road test time?
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    The black cables are great, who really cares if cables are era specific?

    I do agree that the silver would detract attention from the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blandin
    So what's the ETA to road test time?
    Blandin, your constant questioning of this reminds me of bart Simpson when he ordered his Spy camera...

    "Is it here yet...? Is it here yet...? Is it here yet...? Is it here yet...? Is it here yet...? Is it here yet...? Is it here yet...? Is it here yet...? Is it here yet...? Is it here yet...? Is it here yet...? Is it here yet...? Is it here yet...? Is it here yet...? Is it here yet...?'

    OK. not that bad, but I'm reminded of it

    Maybe this week if the Freewheel gets in.

    I could wire it up quickly with the Dura Ace shifter on the right, Dura Ace Derailleur on the back and using the DA rear wheel, take it for a spin.. Should I?


    Quote Originally Posted by scrible
    The black cables are great, who really cares if cables are era specific?

    I do agree that the silver would detract attention from the frame.
    You are right, I wished I had more of these, I can't even remember how I got them? I think they came with the Aztec Power Line cable kit.
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    Ah yes, I forgot about the freewheel - fairly important point I think. I will undoubtedly forget/ingore that point and ask you again before day's end when your going to have a test ride - so stand by. Your friend Bart, I mean Brad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blandin
    Ah yes, I forgot about the freewheel - fairly important point I think. I will undoubtedly forget/ingore that point and ask you again before day's end when your going to have a test ride - so stand by. Your friend Bart, I mean Brad.


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    Hi,

    I forgot to mention one thing that I noticed that made me a little sad. You routed the front brake to the left lever instead of the right. An italian bike with this much class should have italian style brake routing.
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    So Viper, I've been following this thread for seemingly forever. Any idea when you might be taking it for it's maiden voyage?

    Regards;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleave
    Hi,

    I forgot to mention one thing that I noticed that made me a little sad. You routed the front brake to the left lever instead of the right. An italian bike with this much class should have italian style brake routing.
    Not necessary true.. They may have done that long ago, however I think the Italians realized this was a crazy thing to do and soon followed suit with the rest of the cycling world.






    Besides, I would hate to cross my channels and grab the wrong brake, this isn't something I could deprogram in myself very quickly
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    Quote Originally Posted by 55/Rad
    So Viper, I've been following this thread for seemingly forever. Any idea when you might be taking it for it's maiden voyage?

    Regards;

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    There's a picture in my math book from last year of some guy on a Colnago with Delta brakes. Just to show how much money goes into math texts in public high school...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    My comment about a custom builder liking it was because it surprises me....that you take interest in my project it in the slightest.

    I liked you better when you didn't say as much.

    I quite like the Fizik. I had a Regal on it, and it doesn't look as good to me, plus its heavy and the fake rivets are a turn off. Rolls? I didn't like them then, and I still don't like them now.
    And I liked you better when you had a sense of humour!

    These old bikes are dear to my heart, that's why I commented on your build. I've already explained why in a previous post, and as you've clearly misinterpreted my comments I suggest you go back and read them again, see the goodwill and humour in them and not succumb to "I've had a bad day at the office, I'll take it out on sombody on the internet" syndrome.

    Anyway, back on topic.

    It's awesome seeing that old 1987 edition of Cyclist. That's when these high end Italian jobbies really caught my eye as a 16 year old just starting to get into the road scene. I'd forgotten all about Rossin!! And the Binachi with the black chrome looks 100000% better than the flirtation they had with Celeste and Yellow a few years ago. What were they thinking?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thylacine
    And I liked you better when you had a sense of humour!

    These old bikes are dear to my heart, that's why I commented on your build. I've already explained why in a previous post, and as you've clearly misinterpreted my comments I suggest you go back and read them again, see the goodwill and humour in them and not succumb to "I've had a bad day at the office, I'll take it out on sombody on the internet" syndrome.

    Anyway, back on topic.

    It's awesome seeing that old 1987 edition of Cyclist. That's when these high end Italian jobbies really caught my eye as a 16 year old just starting to get into the road scene. I'd forgotten all about Rossin!! And the Binachi with the black chrome looks 100000% better than the flirtation they had with Celeste and Yellow a few years ago. What were they thinking?!?
    I did see the humor in your post, however you came across a bit condescending afterward, and your last "saddle looks dumb" was not really necessary... It's not what you say, it's how you say it....

    There is still humor in my posts to you in all that too


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    i'm not sure if you posted this before but where did you score your cinelli handlebars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooklyn
    i'm not sure if you posted this before but where did you score your cinelli handlebars?

    I got them from 55/Rad


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    One thing ViperZ, don't forget that whatever freewheel you get is likely to require a remover!!!! Some models will now be harder to find than others.

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    If anyone ever spots a 64-42 Cinelli bar with dual cable grooves would they kindly give me a heads up. I do believe they made such a thing, and know for certain they did a single groove bar. I do love the Cinelli XA stem and the 64 and 66 model bars. I've got a 66-40 on one of my bikes along with a 100mm XA stem. Wouldn't trade it for any other bar/stem combo out there.

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