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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    Thanks Folks!

    Mariner, I'm going to use the Straight fork for now as I dig the look of it. I may pick up a curved fork if I ever see one looking for a home. Actually the Era correct Gruppo for this bike is Campagnolo Super Record, however I want to collect C-Record stuff for now.

    Maybe down the road I may convert this to a newer Campagnolo group, depending if I ever find my 1987 Colnago Master Pui in NOS
    Looking for a fork my selves. In fact just like the one you have. Unfourtantly the steerer has to be 23.5 cm .

    When it comes to the drivetrain, I'm using friction shifters (the best from that world => Suntour) and a 10 speed hub. I like all my bikes to be more or less fully compatible with each other. The crank will be a C-record though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marqueemoon
    This is going to be one hot bike. I've heard mixed reviews on the performance of the Delta brakes but they are certainly unique looking.

    Time to look for a NOS white Rolls with the blingin' gold badges.
    I had a cool saddle lined up but was out bid



    Quote Originally Posted by Lectron
    Looking for a fork my selves. In fact just like the one you have. Unfourtantly the steerer has to be 23.5 cm .

    When it comes to the drivetrain, I'm using friction shifters (the best from that world => Suntour) and a 10 speed hub. I like all my bikes to be more or less fully compatible with each other. The crank will be a C-record though.
    Wow, here is wishing you luck on that fork. It will be quite rare in that size.

    The C-Record Crank & Chain Ring works well with a narrow 10 speed Chain?
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    The C-Record Crank & Chain Ring works well with a narrow 10 speed Chain?[/QUOTE]

    Might have to do something 'bout those chainrings, but other than that no ptoblems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lectron
    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    The C-Record Crank & Chain Ring works well with a narrow 10 speed Chain?
    Might have to do something 'bout those chainrings, but other than that no ptoblems.
    Let me know how the C-Record works with the narrow chain and or if you have to change out the rings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    Let me know how the C-Record works with the narrow chain and or if you have to change out the rings.
    Sure. I'll do that. Don't know when I'll get the BB though. It'll come with some other backorder parts.
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    I just measured the tooth width of my 10sp Record and C-Record.

    The 10 Speed Record was 1.98 mm on average.

    The C-Record was 2.05 mm on average.

    Don't know if it'll be a problem, but I suspect not.
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    I did a mock up of the Master today to get an idea how it would look and what type of design theme I should take with it. The Wheels are the original ones from the Trek. I placed my Campagnolo Eurus on the Master, and while it looked kind of cool in a modern Hot Rod way, I think I prefer the classic elegance of a 32 spoke wheel at this time.

    The Stem is a 120mm Cinelli that I will most likely be using. The Bars are a set of Anatomic Modolo's they are a 42 so they are a bit narrow for me, I will not be using these.

    I have ordered a saddle and my bar tape after seeing the mock up.

    I was considering a C-Record Seat post, but I'm not so sure now. It's set back is just a bit more than what I like in post, and for some reason a round post would be nice too. We'll see....

    I tore apart the headset and Bottom bracket last night to inspect the frame and clean the bearings. The Bottom Bracket is in Excellent shape, and did not really need a rebuild at all. The Head set was really gunked up. I will probably replace this one as the the inside were in rough shape, and the outer cups are a bit scuffed up.

    I put the Syncros 2 Index shifters on it, and will be looking to get a 7 speed insert, or maybe modifying this one for 8speed action if possible. I can't wait for the retro action!

    The Geometry of this bike looks tight I can barely contain myself and want to ride it badly. I have enough Shimano Parts to put this show on the road, but that would just be all wrong at this time

    Here are some pictures. The chips have been touched up with black automotive paint. The clubs on the brake bridge, BB shell and seat stays have been filled in with gold paint. I then filled the clubs on the DT lug and the fork crown with black paint, the whole frame was cleaned and polished. I think it's looking better now.

    I have secured a replacement tubing decal and actually a complete Master Decal set should I ever have to strip it and refinish it.













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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    I did a mock up of the Master today to get an idea how it would look and what type of design theme I should take with it. The Wheels are the original ones from the Trek. I placed my Campagnolo Eurus on the Master, and while it looked kind of cool in a modern Hot Rod way, I think I prefer the classic elegance of a 32 spoke wheel at this time.

    The Stem is a 120mm Cinelli that I will most likely be using. The Bars are a set of Anatomic Modolo's they are a 42 so they are a bit narrow for me, I will not be using these.

    I have ordered a saddle and my bar tape after seeing the mock up.

    I was considering a C-Record Seat post, but I'm not so sure now. It's set back is just a bit more than what I like in post, and for some reason a round post would be nice too. We'll see....

    I tore apart the headset and Bottom bracket last night to inspect the frame and clean the bearings. The Bottom Bracket is in Excellent shape, and did not really need a rebuild at all. The Head set was really gunked up. I will probably replace this one as the the inside were in rough shape, and the outter cups are a bt scuffed up.

    I put the Syncros 2 Index shifters on it, and will be looking to get a 7 speed insert, or maybe modidifing this one for 8speed action if possible. I can't wait for the retro action!

    The Geometry of this bike looks tight I can barely contain myself and want to ride it badly. I have enough Shimano Parts to put this show on the road, but that would just be all wrong at this time
    Hi ViperZ,

    +1 on the 32 spoke wheels.

    Find some classic Cinelli round bars. Maybe some old Mod. 66s with a nice deep drop. Forget the anatomic bend on a bike of this vintage.

    C-Record seatpost would be OK, but a fluted Super Record would be the best. American Classic is a deathtrap -- I have a few in my garage and they were scary when I only weighed 140 lbs.

    Definitely ixnay on the ShimaNO parts on this bike. I am not trying to start a component flame war, but given your obvious good taste in vintage bikes, Campy only on a frame like this. (Don't anyone flame me on this one as I was using Shimano stuff during the late 1980s on my American frames, Serotta and Stowe.)

    Good luck with the rest of your build.
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    Thanks Cleave, I'm with you on the anatominc bars, I prefer a Cinelli 64 or 66 for this build. The Modolos are just there for mock up.

    I would like to build up a Rain bike with the spare Dura Ace 7400 components I have. It would be a fine 8speed indexed system. A classic Japanese Bike...OH yeah!
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    OMG, that's beautiful! I could just picture that mock up completely built, minus the derailleurs and shifters to suit me.... Seriously, it's looking to be a fine looking machine!
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    Very nice so far. Those Italians sure do understand beauty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    I had a cool saddle lined up but was out bid
    Viper - I may have what you want for a saddle and seatpost. I'm taking the Campy post and Regal saddle off my Serotta and replacing with an American Classic post and Flite saddle. The Campy seatpost and Regal look to be in very good to excellent condition. I'll see what they look like when the bike arrives...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleave
    ... American Classic is a deathtrap -- I have a few in my garage and they were scary when I only weighed 140 lbs.

    ...
    Deathtrap in what way? I have them on 4 of my bikes. (You do have to make sure the main bolt is tight as I've had it loosen up once in the middle of a CX race. I rode the last lap without a saddle.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlastRadius
    Deathtrap in what way? I have them on 4 of my bikes. (You do have to make sure the main bolt is tight as I've had it loosen up once in the middle of a CX race. I rode the last lap without a saddle.)
    They loosen up???? Well that's scary!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lectron
    They loosen up???? Well that's scary!!
    I've not had it happen on a road bike, only that once during a CX race. I've made sure the bolt is nice and tight from now on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlastRadius
    Deathtrap in what way? I have them on 4 of my bikes. (You do have to make sure the main bolt is tight as I've had it loosen up once in the middle of a CX race. I rode the last lap without a saddle.)
    Hi BlastRadius,

    Yep, I've had the clamp loosen up during several races and I've had two teammates break the top clamp that the large bolt threads into. I am talking about circa late 1980s posts in my possession, but my teammates were on 1990s models.

    At this point, IMHO I just don't trust them. YMMV.
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    Why not put on a Record Aero. Would look VERY nice.
    That would take up some of the lines from your quill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fixer
    OMG, that's beautiful! I could just picture that mock up completely built, minus the derailleurs and shifters to suit me.... Seriously, it's looking to be a fine looking machine!
    You know there is something to be said about a bicycle with less components hanging off of it. The Beauty is so pure, must be why a mocked up Colnago can look good Also must be why you are a Fixer


    Quote Originally Posted by 14Max
    Viper - I may have what you want for a saddle and seatpost. I'm taking the Campy post and Regal saddle off my Serotta and replacing with an American Classic post and Flite saddle. The Campy seatpost and Regal look to be in very good to excellent condition. I'll see what they look like when the bike arrives...
    OK, Mark me first on the list for dibs Is it the C-Record Aero? What color is the Saddle?

    I have ordered one of these, but I can always use more saddles




    I have an American Classic on my Trek as well. The only problem I have had was I tighten the saddle clamp too much and snapped the plate the saddle sits in. That's why I have that Post with no plate


    Lectron, you are probably right and I'll most likely end up with a C-Record Aero post to complete my group collection.


    Thanks for everybody's comments!
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    If you're gonna put a new saddle on the bike, it can just as
    well have COLNAGO embroidered in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    OK, Mark me first on the list for dibs Is it the C-Record Aero? What color is the Saddle?

    I have ordered one of these, but I can always use more saddles
    I've cropped the seatpost/seat from the eBay photo. See below...
    Last edited by 14max; 02-20-07 at 07:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14max
    I've cropped the seatpost/seat from the eBay photo. See below...
    MINE! Do let me know when you get it. Send me a PM with your terms, Thanks!


    Lectron If you're gonna put a new saddle on the bike, it can just as
    well have COLNAGO embroidered in it.
    Rad had a White Colnago Rever lined up for me, but I missed bidding on it.



    If I was doing Black, I would be on it, however I have only seen them in black lately. I with you, I'm not a fan of all that embroidery either.


    Then there is the Aspide Arrow Head



    But it only comes in Black.

    So I ordered the Aspide Ti in white until something else comes along.

    I was considering a Regal in White, but the imitation rivits and the weight of it put me off. It would have looked Stellar!

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    MINE! Do let me know when you get it. Send me a PM with your terms, Thanks!
    Consider them yours. Sent PM with an idea on price but I also want the price to be fair. Let me know...

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    I've been watching this develop and the only way I could be more excited if it was mine. It sure makes me want to start another project.
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    Thanks 14max!

    Thanks uga8549! Anytime I look at another bicycle it makes me want to start another project

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    Thanks 14max!

    Thanks uga8549! Anytime I look at another bicycle it makes me want to start another project

    No problem. I'll send you photos of the seatpost when the bike arrives.

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