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    Affordable, reliable power meter. Does it exist?

    I'd like to be able to track my power and see if I am improving or not. I want to be able to use this to create a good training program and see how it affects my body.

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    The Polar is the most reasonable of them, and also the worst of them. The iBike is an option but a poor one at that. You can pick up a Powertap Standard or Pro on ebay relatively cheap.

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    Depends on whether you call $700 affordable.

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    With the Powertap Pro and SL versions out, you can get a used Powertap (standard) on eBay.

    I got mine for ~$450 built up into a wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
    Depends on whether you call $700 affordable.
    Well it's more than what I paid for my bike but I guess all things being relative, it's affordable for what it does. So which one in particular are you reffering to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -VELOCITY-
    Well it's more than what I paid for my bike but I guess all things being relative, it's affordable for what it does. So which one in particular are you reffering to?
    Powertap. I have a powertap SL and its been very reliable. The earlier models have had some question regarding susceptability to water damage. However if you can get one on Ebay for $450, I'd take that over a Polar unit, which is reported to be not as accurate, and very finicky to set up.

    The book Training with Power by allen and Coggan has a chapteron the strengths and weaknesses of the various power meters thats worth reading, and the rest of the book will help you make the most of a power meter if you get one.

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    Another question, are you currently following a Heart rate driven training program? If not, you might try that, and see how it works for you, before you invest in a power meter.

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    ibike pro for $400

    just came out, reviews have been mostly positive with the creators making firmware improvements constantly. Ordered mine from performance to see if they can really match the expectation but I'm optimistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
    Another question, are you currently following a Heart rate driven training program? If not, you might try that, and see how it works for you, before you invest in a power meter.
    Honestly right now I'm not following any specific program. But thanks for the advice. I will give it a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jslopez
    ibike pro for $400

    just came out, reviews have been mostly positive with the creators making firmware improvements constantly. Ordered mine from performance to see if they can really match the expectation but I'm optimistic.
    this review found a 36 watt difference between the Ibike, and the Powertap. In my mind that descrepency is too big to make it a meaningful training tool. You could train for months to get an increase of 36 watts at LT threshold. http://www.nyvelocity.com/content.php?id=889

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    Affordable, reliable power meter??...




    You asked....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike9903
    I'm scared of Ebay. I've never done a purchase through them. One question though. Is that rim part of the package? Do I also have to buy a rim? I wonder if that's why these things are so expensive. I thought it was a simple piece of equipment like a cyclecomputer that records speed and cadence. Guess not.

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    These devices are "enormously" expensive compared to a bike computer. This isn't one of those everday things you walk into a bike shop and decide to purchase. It's a serious training tool.

    I hate to say this but if you're asking questions like this, i'm wondering if you'll benefit more from heart rate training first. Not to mention it's much cheaper.

    That ebay auction is for the entire wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
    this review found a 36 watt difference between the Ibike, and the Powertap. In my mind that descrepency is too big to make it a meaningful training tool. You could train for months to get an increase of 36 watts at LT threshold. http://www.nyvelocity.com/content.php?id=889

    Well there are discrepancies given certain situations, I think they will be addressed though. Regardless I welcome any new player in the market as I do not see myself spending over $500 for a rtaining device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by operator
    I hate to say this but if you're asking questions like this, i'm wondering if you'll benefit more from heart rate training first. Not to mention it's much cheaper.
    No there's nothing wrong about you saying this. I am inquiring so advice like this is great. I really appreciate it. And since I didn't know how much the equipment costs these posts are very insightful for me. Thank you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike9903
    No way that goes for under $600.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psimet2001
    Affordable, reliable power meter??...




    You asked....
    And when the bulbs blow up you've hit the wall!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -VELOCITY-
    No there's nothing wrong about you saying this. I am inquiring so advice like this is great. I really appreciate it. And since I didn't know how much the equipment costs these posts are very insightful for me. Thank you all.
    To get much out of a power meter, other than numbers for bar room conversations, you have to use it in a sturctured training program. Some people want to do that type of training, others don't. Starting with a HRM program will give you a feel whether you want to follow a regimented training program, and from there a power meter is the logical next step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oilman_15106
    And when the bulbs blow up you've hit the wall!!!
    And when lightning starts shooting out, you've gone Super Saiyajin Level 2!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElJamoquio
    No way that goes for under $600.
    Up to $710, with five days left to go...

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    Powermeters are high dollar devices for serious (or rich) cyclists. I'd stick with a heart rate based training program.

    My Cat1 buddy says you really don't need a power meter until you are a Cat2, untill then, just ride till you puke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitropowered
    My Cat1 buddy says you really don't need a power meter until you are a Cat2, untill then, just ride till you puke.
    Your Cat 1 buddy can ride a bike faster than most. How does that qualify him to pass judgement on the efficacy of training methods and devices? I'd put more trust in coaches and physiologists, more and more of whom are recommending training with power over other measures of workload.

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    Well, he's got a pending patent on a training system and some training methods that are being used at the OTC that I'm not allowed to talk about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitropowered
    Well, he's got a pending patent on a training system and some training methods that are being used at the OTC that I'm not allowed to talk about.
    So his qualifications have nothing to do with being a Cat 1? What is the pending patent for? A patent application is a public document so there's no reason to keep it secret. If you give me the title or inventor's name I can look it up myself. But if his training plan is ride till you puke, i'm afraid there's little chance of a patent being awarded or that the program is being used at the OTC.

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