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    Help me decide on a new bike - BMC/Cervelo/Pinarello

    Currently riding a 2005 Trek 1400 - only upgrades being decent tyres and saddle. Its been ok but the wheels creak whenever I am out of the saddle and they are fairly crap in my view. So am starting to think about a replacement and want to keep the budget to around US$3,000. I am in Australia so we pay a little more but I figure the shipping hassle and after sales service cancel the saving I might make.

    I dont mind riding a full aluminium bike and being on the heavier end of the stick (210lbs) I am looking for something that is stiff. Prefer not to get a Giant or a Trek - nothing against them - just want something a little different.

    Have been doing my homework and looking closely at these three which are roughly in the same price range:

    1) BMC SL 01 built with Integra and Campag Scirroco wheels (or Zondas if I can make it fit the budget)
    2) Cervelo Soloist Team specced per the std off the shelf
    3) Pinarello Galileo specced per the std off the shelf

    I will transplant my Fizik Arione from the Trek and for the Cervelo and Galileo I see they both use OEM cranksets which does concern me and also the wheelsets give me concern. I dont want to have another crap set like the Bontrager Selects so opinions on these are important to me.

    Leaning toward the BMC or the Cervelo at the moment.

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    They're all great choices. I'm in the process of getting a BMC myself (a Streetfire SSX); they are f'ing fantastic bikes, even the low-end SSX. Rides like butter, it does, but I don't think you can go wrong with any of the three.

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    I'm a fan of Cervelo, but to each his own.

    Here's a question that must be asked: Have you got any saddle time in any of the bikes you're mentioning?
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    I think bmc's are damn cool, and have a nice rare factor, as they a dime a dozen, even here in big nyc. However, I don't have any bmc dealers in my state to test ride/buy, and my lbs carries cervelo, so that is the way I am currently leaning.

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    Those are all great bikes. The BMC (wow did their website improve) and the Cervelo have that functional flare whereas the Pinarello has that sexy Italian thing going for it. Just pick what feels right to you, and I agree with SaabFan, you need to to try to get some saddle time.

    I've been really pleased with my Cervelos, and the soloist may offer a little more versatility and has the aero factor. If your budget was $8000, I'd say don't worry about your weight and get a BMC Pro Machine or a completely tricked out R3, but the stuff doesn't grow on trees.

    Have fun in your search and let us know what you end up with.

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    If you are interested in the BMC, find out where in Bangkok Cyberpop got his DA, Cosmic Carbone SL, equipped Pro Machine for $4,700.


    ...it's cheaper than in the US. I paid around US$4,700 - everything is brand new.
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    the BMC is HOT, but my advice is to get the bike with the BEST WARRANTY - which would mean rethinking Trek, and Giant, as well as adding Cannondale to that list.

    ymmv

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto
    the BMC is HOT, but my advice is to get the bike with the BEST WARRANTY - which would mean rethinking Trek, and Giant, as well as adding Cannondale to that list.

    ymmv
    Seeing as how I've been doing some homework in this realm, I thought I'd add this info from Competitive Cyclist:

    Quote Originally Posted by CC
    Colnago -- You get a four-year warranty from manufacturing defect. The first two years are covered by Colnago themselves, then the next two years are covered by the American importer Trialtir USA. Once you receive your new Colnago frame, you will need to make sure to U.S. mail the appropriate documentation both to Colnago Italy and to Trialtir in order to activate the warranty coverage. There is also a dealer stub that must be sent to us in order to comply with the warranty regulations -- don't neglect to send it to us! All documentation will be included with your frame. We will fill out all serial number information for you and we'll affix our dealer stamp where required.

    Pinarello, Pegoretti, Eddy Merckx, and Opera Bike: Two year coverage from manufacturing defect, and one year coverage on the finish. You can activate the warranties for these frames on-line by clicking here.

    Look: Five year coverage from manufacturing defects, and one year warranty on paint and finish work. All registration material is included with the Owner's Manual that will come with your frame/bike.

    Cervelo: Lifetime coverage from manufacturing defects, and one year warranty on paint and finish work.

    BMC: The SLC 01 and SLT 01 have a three year warranty against manufacturing defects, while the SL 01 and Streetfire have a five year warranty from defect.
    Read: Cervelo just climbed the list a notch or two...
    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    Read: Cervelo just climbed the list a notch or two...
    maybe, but check the R2.5 recall thread (if you haven't already). seems cervelo like to choose when they honor the warranty. after the recent thread about the clear coat issues on six13's, c'dale seems to uphold it's sparkling rep vis-a-vis customer service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    Read: Cervelo just climbed the list a notch or two...

    Factoid: BMC has never raced their carbon frames in Paris-Roubaix, they use the aluminum ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto
    maybe, but check the R2.5 recall thread (if you haven't already). seems cervelo like to choose when they honor the warranty. after the recent thread about the clear coat issues on six13's, c'dale seems to uphold it's sparkling rep vis-a-vis customer service.
    Wow--thanks for bringing that up. I had actually missed that thread. Certainly not a great thing. I think there's a component of self-preservation there because it's a small company and a big recall like that had to hurt pretty bad financially. It would seem, though, that companies in a market as small as uber-high-end road bikes really can't afford to do anything that sullies their name.

    Maybe Cervelo went back down the list a bit...
    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto
    maybe, but check the R2.5 recall thread (if you haven't already). seems cervelo like to choose when they honor the warranty.
    Wrong again, botto.

    EVERY 2.5 has a full lifetime warranty to original owner honored by Cervelo. The recalls are for a subset of bikes, regardless of original ownership. The other frames don't need to be recalled. But, if any 2.5 breaks, even outside the recall numbers, Cervelo replaces it with an R3 to the original owner. So don't make stuff up based on your lack of understanding.
    I don't know of any frame manufacturer that does this.

    I think it takes huge bocce balls to charge $4000 for a frame and warranty it for 24 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocRay
    So don't make stuff up based on your lack of understanding.
    Quote Originally Posted by DocRay
    Its a LAWYER, he's lying, he's paid to lie.
    Quote Originally Posted by DocRay
    Also , Basso gave DNA samples voluntarily to clear himself.
    Pot. Kettle. Black. Fred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto
    Pot. Kettle. Black. Fred.
    OK. Lawyers don't lie.

    Keep posting "information" you made up for your agenda.

    Why not just admit you're wrong instead of acting like a teenage immature twit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocRay
    OK. Lawyers don't lie, you don't have your head up your ass.

    Keep posting "information" you made up for your agenda.
    information I made up for my 'agenda'? what exactly is my agenda "Doc".

    I'm not the one who claimed Basso gave DNA samples, when he didn't. Nor do I have I made some irrational claims that 'all lawyers lie'.

    Nor do I claim to be Doctor. when I'm not.
    Last edited by botto; 10-03-06 at 12:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .:Jimbo:.
    I think bmc's are damn cool, and have a nice rare factor, as they a dime a dozen, even here in big nyc. However, I don't have any bmc dealers in my state to test ride/buy, and my lbs carries cervelo, so that is the way I am currently leaning.
    There are two BMC dealers in NYC, Altheus at 113 4th Ave, and SBR Multi Sports at 203 W. 58th St (both in Manhattan.

    For the OP: ride them. Find shops near you and ride ride ride as much as you can. That will tell you which to get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocRay
    EVERY 2.5 has a full lifetime warranty to original owner honored by Cervelo. The recalls are for a subset of bikes, regardless of original ownership. The other frames don't need to be recalled. But, if any 2.5 breaks, even outside the recall numbers, Cervelo replaces it with an R3 to the original owner. So don't make stuff up based on your lack of understanding.
    I don't know of any frame manufacturer that does this.
    You beat me to it.


    Quote Originally Posted by DocRay
    I think it takes huge bocce balls to charge $4000 for a frame and warranty it for 24 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by botto
    I'm not the one who claims that Basso gave DNA samples, when he didn't.

    Nor do I claim to be Doctor. when I'm not.
    Look, w*nker, gasterbator or whatever, I'm sorry if I speak a few languages other than english and can read newspapers that do not publish online. The Basso story was publ;ishe din Spetember 29th La Stampa, in italian, not online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocRay
    Factoid: BMC has never raced their carbon frames in Paris-Roubaix, they use the aluminum ones.
    I thought their big selling point for the R series was that Fabian Cancellara raced the R3 at Paris-Roubaix. At least that's what they advertise--is that really BS?
    "Unless he was racing there was no way he could match my speed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    I thought their big selling point for the R series was that Fabian Cancellara raced the R3 at Paris-Roubaix. At least that's what they advertise--is that really BS?
    BMC raced its Streetfire SSX all-aluminum frames in Paris-Roubaix. You're thinking of Cervelo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    I thought their big selling point for the R series was that Fabian Cancellara raced the R3 at Paris-Roubaix. At least that's what they advertise--is that really BS?

    Cancellara did ride the R3 (and won), it's made by Cervelo.

    Maybe you just misread it, but BMC is not a Cervelo. BMC's carbon ride is the Pro Machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocRay
    Look, w*nker, gasterbator or whatever, I'm sorry if I speak a few languages other than english and can read newspapers that do not publish online. The Basso story was publ;ishe din Spetember 29th La Stampa, in italian, not online.
    sticks and stones will break my bones... yada, yada, yada

    do you kiss your mother with that mouth? probably

    if your tidbit of information was legitamte, then we'd have heard of it by now. FACTOID: we have not.

    by the by - it's such a relief to know i'm not the only person who can speak a second, or maybe even a third language .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    I thought their big selling point for the R series was that Fabian Cancellara raced the R3 at Paris-Roubaix. At least that's what they advertise--is that really BS?
    Re-read.

    Cervelo is the first CF frame to win Paris Roubaix.

    BMC does not enter their CF frames at Paris Roubaix.

    Or, just ask Botto, he'll make something up that sounds nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocRay
    Look, w*nker, gasterbator or whatever, I'm sorry if I speak a few languages other than english and can read newspapers that do not publish online. The Basso story was publ;ishe din Spetember 29th La Stampa, in italian, not online.
    Can we keep this on-topic? I know it's the internet, but there's no reason to be dicks to each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto
    sticks and stones will break my bones... yada, yada, yada

    Kids on forums is annoying, I thought there was a minimal age. This little tool is following me around the threads posting stupid remarks and wasting my time.

    botto, PM me if you have some problem with reality. Otherwise, step off.

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