Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Most bike damage? When racked!

Search
Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Most bike damage? When racked!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-10-06, 07:15 PM
  #1  
Jacko nose historian
Thread Starter
 
theshoemaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Salt Lake City!
Posts: 671

Bikes: 2006 52cm Trek 2200, Specialized Rockhopper (gets infrequent use unfortunately)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Most bike damage? When racked!

Undoubtedly, my bike gets the most visible damage from being carried for miles on the rack. This is of course not major structural damage, just scratched metal and paint, and the like. Seems I can ride endlessly and after a cleaning find no new wear, except maybe tire wear. Most of the damage while racked, I'm sure, is due to carrying 2 or more bikes (I'm usually carrying my wife's bike too). I'm using a fairly typical Thule hitch rack for 4 bikes. Seems like no matter how I strap things down, by the time we've arrived there's bound to be new bits and pieces here and there that have gotten worn.

Do any of you guys have any tricks for avoiding this on a hitch rack?
theshoemaker is offline  
Old 10-10-06, 08:01 PM
  #2  
roadie (mostly)
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 141

Bikes: Iron Horse Cyclone and a Jamis Exile

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
get a roof rack?
But really, I feel your pain. I ALWAYS have problems with my trunk rack. I recommend placing lots of padding (rags, whatever) between the bikes and then bungy cord everything together really tight.
Impoliticus is offline  
Old 10-10-06, 08:41 PM
  #3  
Jacko nose historian
Thread Starter
 
theshoemaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Salt Lake City!
Posts: 671

Bikes: 2006 52cm Trek 2200, Specialized Rockhopper (gets infrequent use unfortunately)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Impoliticus
get a roof rack?
But really, I feel your pain. I ALWAYS have problems with my trunk rack. I recommend placing lots of padding (rags, whatever) between the bikes and then bungy cord everything together really tight.
Yeah, the problem with rags is that it gets rediculous due to the number I need and the fact that they each individually need fastening somehow too. S'annoying.
theshoemaker is offline  
Old 10-10-06, 08:59 PM
  #4  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 21

Bikes: De Rosa Corum

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Dude! I totally agree. The guy at the local LBS talked me into the trailer hitch mount. He explained to me that roof mounts on a SUV is a tall reach. I may scratch up my vehicle trying to rack the bike, or try driving into my garage spacing that I’ve got bikes on the roof. (This is something I know I would do.)

The first time I used the trailer hitch rack it rubbed cables against the underside of my top tube scratching off paint. I now place my riding gloves between the cables ant top tube. Most recently two bikes were racked and I managed to scratch paint off the down tube! Man did that burn me up.
Remy is offline  
Old 10-10-06, 09:05 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Scorer75's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New York
Posts: 1,945
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I've got two spots down to the metal due to my rack @#%$#@.

Now I use pipe insulation on my top tube and just put a strip of masking tape to keep it in place. Not a big deal to put on and take off but sure saves the bike.
Scorer75 is offline  
Old 10-10-06, 09:05 PM
  #6  
Jacko nose historian
Thread Starter
 
theshoemaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Salt Lake City!
Posts: 671

Bikes: 2006 52cm Trek 2200, Specialized Rockhopper (gets infrequent use unfortunately)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
You know, what we need is for somebody to create some rubber on oneside, smooth and soft fabric on the other velcro straps that can be strapped all over a bike to prevent rubbage problems. ...strap them to the rack when not in use.

...or something like that.
theshoemaker is offline  
Old 10-10-06, 09:07 PM
  #7  
Jacko nose historian
Thread Starter
 
theshoemaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Salt Lake City!
Posts: 671

Bikes: 2006 52cm Trek 2200, Specialized Rockhopper (gets infrequent use unfortunately)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Scorer75
I've got two spots down to the metal due to my rack @#%$#@.

Now I use pipe insulation on my top tube and just put a strip of masking tape to keep it in place. Not a big deal to put on and take off but sure saves the bike.
Wait that sounds cool. What kind of pipe insulation?
theshoemaker is offline  
Old 10-10-06, 09:30 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
kleng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Perth, Australia and sometimes Penang Malaysia
Posts: 1,916

Bikes: Litespeed L1r, Litespeed Ghisallo 07, TCR Advanced Team SL 0 ISP, Giant TCR Advanced SL, Giant TCR Advanced Team - T-Mobile, Giant Propel Advanced SL

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Scorer75
I've got two spots down to the metal due to my rack @#%$#@.

Now I use pipe insulation on my top tube and just put a strip of masking tape to keep it in place. Not a big deal to put on and take off but sure saves the bike.
+1 on the pipe insulation, just cut it to length to fit the top, down and seat tube, slit them down length wise and slip them over the tubes, now you can tie or strap anything to the frame without any problems.

kleng is offline  
Old 10-10-06, 09:44 PM
  #9  
Jacko nose historian
Thread Starter
 
theshoemaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Salt Lake City!
Posts: 671

Bikes: 2006 52cm Trek 2200, Specialized Rockhopper (gets infrequent use unfortunately)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sounds great! Going to Home Depot tomorrow!
theshoemaker is offline  
Old 10-10-06, 10:28 PM
  #10  
OCP-Poseur...
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Cerritos, CA
Posts: 254

Bikes: Madone 5.9, Cervelo R2.5

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Pick-up + fork traps + wheels in cab= no problems... :-)

But the foam insulation tip would work for clients that come into my shop... Good Idea!
ADlBOO is offline  
Old 10-10-06, 10:31 PM
  #11  
Over the hill
 
urbanknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 24,374

Bikes: Giant Defy, Giant Revolt

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 996 Post(s)
Liked 1,204 Times in 690 Posts
I don't have nearly that much of a problem with my roof rack. Still a scratch here and there, but usually it comes off the way it went on. Too bad for me my bike doesn't fit into the parking garage at my new apartment so I have to take it off before driving in, so I gotta get a trunk rack now. Wanna trade?
urbanknight is offline  
Old 10-10-06, 10:36 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
VanceMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Socal
Posts: 4,318
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ADlBOO
But the foam insulation tip would work for clients that come into my shop... Good Idea!
Why would that (rough) foam be any less abrasive than the rubber mounts? I'm very interested, because I'm about to buy a hitch mount rack, and my primary roadie has matte/flat black paint that is very soft.
VanceMac is offline  
Old 10-10-06, 10:42 PM
  #13  
OCP-Poseur...
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Cerritos, CA
Posts: 254

Bikes: Madone 5.9, Cervelo R2.5

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Vancemac
Why would that (rough) foam be any less abrasive than the rubber mounts? I'm very interested, because I'm about to buy a hitch mount rack, and my primary roadie has matte/flat black paint that is very soft.
I dont think its so much the rubber mounts as it is the cables bein routed under the top tube and other bikes bangin into each other.

<sales pitch> We carry saris hitch and trunk mounts, both of which are very nice and use a three point securing system compared to hollywood/ yakima who only secure the bikes via the top tube. The third point secures around the seat tube to prevent the bikes from swaying and consequently hitting each other and ur car. </sales pitch>

Edit: we also carry the saris tray rack too... :-)

Last edited by ADlBOO; 10-10-06 at 11:05 PM.
ADlBOO is offline  
Old 10-10-06, 10:52 PM
  #14  
Over the hill
 
urbanknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 24,374

Bikes: Giant Defy, Giant Revolt

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 996 Post(s)
Liked 1,204 Times in 690 Posts
I would agree, I don't think it's the mount that's the problem. The problem is the bike(s) swaying back and fourth, or the bungee you use to keep them from swaying rubbing against the paint. I am slightly concerned about this for when I buy a trunk rack, which is why I am considering a Saris brand. Too bad they don't fold very flat when not in use. I don't worry too much, though, because I have a 6 year old bike with paint chips (even more now thanks to my crash) and rub marks galore, and I only carry one bike which makes it easier to tether and keep from swaying.
urbanknight is offline  
Old 10-10-06, 11:01 PM
  #15  
DEADBEEF
 
khuon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Posts: 12,234

Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Unfortunately, anytime you use a rack that contacts the frame, you will get abrasion damage. You can minimise it with pads and such but you won't totally eliminate it. If you get fed up enough that you want to switch to a different rack design, consider tray racks. These racks generally don't secure the bike by the frame. Mine secures via the wheels and a clamp to the seatpost. And all points of the "plane" are secured so there's no swinging.

__________________
1999 K2 OzM 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
khuon is offline  
Old 10-10-06, 11:50 PM
  #16  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 21

Bikes: De Rosa Corum

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The tray rack looks like the perfect solution but it sure looks expensive. What does something like that run?
Remy is offline  
Old 10-11-06, 12:03 AM
  #17  
DEADBEEF
 
khuon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Posts: 12,234

Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Remy
The tray rack looks like the perfect solution but it sure looks expensive. What does something like that run?
I think I paid $250 for it. It's no longer made but there are others like it. You might want to check out the ones from Thule. They purchased Sportworks (the company who makes bike racks for busses) and are now rebranding those racks. The Thule racks has trays for the wheels and secures the bike via an arm that captures the top of the front wheel so there's no frame contact.



Also, Saris (works much like the Thule rack) and Performance have tray racks as well. The Performance rack lists for $119 but it still secures by the top tube. However, since the wheels are captive, there won't be any swinging to aggravate the rubbing. Performance also sells the Thule and Saris racks.

https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_id=4411
__________________
1999 K2 OzM 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
khuon is offline  
Old 10-11-06, 12:42 AM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 998
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ADlBOO
Pick-up + fork traps + wheels in cab= no problems... :-)

But the foam insulation tip would work for clients that come into my shop... Good Idea!
What type of fork traps are you using? I used to have one that mounted on the rail of the pickup's bed, but I took it off when I wondered if mounting a bike sideways (not facing the direction of the wind) would mess up the suspension fork, when mounting it near the rear window caused the rear window to scratch up a good amount

I wonder if anyone still sells removable (as in no drilling holes needed) bike racks that mount on the rim for pickups.

The nice thing about in-bed bike racks for a pickup -- a rear-ender or going through a low-clearance garage won't total your steeds, and if you keep the front wheel in the cab and have a locking fork skewer system, it will take a very determined thief to steal the bike.
mlts22 is offline  
Old 10-11-06, 06:59 AM
  #19  
Stuck in Toeclips
 
mikeoverly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 221

Bikes: https://thesearemikesbikes.blogspot.com/2023/06/mikes-bikes.html

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Liked 7 Times in 5 Posts
I use a Yakima hitch rack with -0- abrasion problems. The Yakima secures the frame vertically and horizontally with strong soft rubber straps & soft plastic cups. Simple, smart engineering that's missing in some other racks. I use a long plastic-covered twist wire (the kind that seems to come by the annoying hundreds nowadays, securing toys to the bottom of their display boxes) to tie the handlebars to the rack to prevent the fork from moving. Except for the rear-end collision risk, there's nothing to worry about with this setup.

For 2+ bikes we alternate orientation and twist-tie the front wheel of one bike to the rear wheel of the other (convenient rubber-to-rubber contact). Nothing moves, nothing gets scratched.

Last edited by mikeoverly; 10-11-06 at 07:23 AM.
mikeoverly is offline  
Old 10-11-06, 07:27 AM
  #20  
grilled cheesus
 
aham23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: 8675309
Posts: 6,957

Bikes: 2010 CAAD9 Custom, 06 Giant TCR C2 & 05 Specialized Hardrock Sport

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
I wrap two "rags" around the frame where it comes in contact with the rack. Seems to work fine. Later.
__________________
aham23 is offline  
Old 10-11-06, 07:38 AM
  #21  
DO panic!
 
rockrates's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 145

Bikes: Scott Speedster, Giant Trance X

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
+1 on the pipe insulation, works like a charm

i also try to bind the bikes together (with insulation between) to reduce their motion
rockrates is offline  
Old 10-11-06, 07:43 AM
  #22  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 5,820
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 383 Post(s)
Liked 133 Times in 91 Posts
Uhm, ever thought of putting your bike in the trunk or hatch? Out of the weather, less likely to get stolen.

Several have posted photos of huge, honking SUV with cargo bays big enough for a casket, and a bike rack on the back? I don't get it.
__________________
Il faut de l'audace, encore de l'audace, toujours de l'audace

1980 3Rensho-- 1975 Raleigh Sprite 3spd
1990s Raleigh M20 MTB--2007 Windsor Hour (track)
1988 Ducati 750 F1
San Rensho is offline  
Old 10-11-06, 08:39 AM
  #23  
DEADBEEF
 
khuon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Posts: 12,234

Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by San Rensho
Uhm, ever thought of putting your bike in the trunk or hatch? Out of the weather, less likely to get stolen.

Several have posted photos of huge, honking SUV with cargo bays big enough for a casket, and a bike rack on the back? I don't get it.
Yes, I posted a photo of my bike on a rack. I have a rack because I sometimes carry more than one bike. and for those times that I carry three bikes and three passengers, I'm actually at capacity.




Also, another thing to keep in mind is that despite many misconceptions, many SUVs do not have that much carrying capacity. My Jeep ZJ (Grand Cherokee) has the footprint of a Nissan Sentra and the internal cargo capacity of probably a Honda Accord. With the backseats folded down, I can carry quite a few bikes internally (four if I take out my spare, two with the spare in place) but would then only have room for myself and a single passenger. With the rack, I can seat three in comfort and carry three bikes (one inside and two externally). When not carrying passengers in the back seat, I have the cargo area stuffed with camping equipment and the back seat area with biking paraphenalia.

__________________
1999 K2 OzM 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
khuon is offline  
Old 10-11-06, 09:01 AM
  #24  
Senior Member
 
Coyote2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,393
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
I just picked up a new Honda Fit. Small car, good gas mileage, and my 57cm road bike will go in the cargo area (with one seat folded down). Screw the racks!
Coyote2 is offline  
Old 10-11-06, 12:04 PM
  #25  
Youthful Guy
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 33

Bikes: Seven Axiom SG - full Ultegra 'cept for SRAM 50/36 Chain Rings; SRAM 11-26 Cassette; Wipperman Chain - Ksyrium SLs

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by mikeoverly
I use a Yakima hitch rack with -0- abrasion problems. The Yakima secures the frame vertically and horizontally with strong soft rubber straps & soft plastic cups. Simple, smart engineering that's missing in some other racks. I use a long plastic-covered twist wire (the kind that seems to come by the annoying hundreds nowadays, securing toys to the bottom of their display boxes) to tie the handlebars to the rack to prevent the fork from moving. Except for the rear-end collision risk, there's nothing to worry about with this setup.

For 2+ bikes we alternate orientation and twist-tie the front wheel of one bike to the rear wheel of the other (convenient rubber-to-rubber contact). Nothing moves, nothing gets scratched.
I agree with mikeoverly, I have used a Yakima hitch rack for over a year and have had no problems.
7.rider is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.