Chain question
10-30-06, 12:00 AM
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Chain question
Okay, I tried searching but I didn't find the answer I was looking for. Anyway, i'm trying to remove the chain on my fulll Ultegra equipped bike. The front derailleur appears to have a screw that will allow the derailleur guides/frame to come apart and allow the chain to be pulled through.
As far as the rear guide/idler pulleys go: can I just remove the allen bolts that go through the center of them to remove the chain? Every thread I found on here talks about cutting the chain/removing pins and this and that to get the chain off of the bike. My method seems much easier. What am I missing?
As far as the rear guide/idler pulleys go: can I just remove the allen bolts that go through the center of them to remove the chain? Every thread I found on here talks about cutting the chain/removing pins and this and that to get the chain off of the bike. My method seems much easier. What am I missing?
10-30-06, 12:01 AM
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so you think taking the RD cage apart is easier than busting your chain open with a chain tool?
think about what you're saying for a bit....then go get a chain tool....
think about what you're saying for a bit....then go get a chain tool....
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Well, there appear to be only two idler pullies that hold the chain on once the rear wheel comes off. Each pulley appears to be held on with a simple allen head screw. How hard could it be?
Believe me, i've done my share of motorcycle chains. I'd much rather take of two pulleys than drive out and stake rivets.
Believe me, i've done my share of motorcycle chains. I'd much rather take of two pulleys than drive out and stake rivets.
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shimano and campy 10 speed chains require a special pin when reinstalling chain. and the pin is a one time use pin. all the after market chain manufacturers use a master link or power link that you can take apart with your hand. since 10 speed chains don't last very long...1,500 miles or so...I know there are some that will say that they can go 3,000 miles or more on a 10 speed chain, but they must live in the flat lands and weight 98 pounds fully wet. in any case, if you don't know how to install the special pin, or don't have one and you need to take it off, taking the derailluers apart is not a bad idea...this forces you to clean those parts also. but otherwise, a chaintool which you should have for emergencys, is the best way to remove a chain.
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Originally Posted by Eric_The_Jew
Well, there appear to be only two idler pullies that hold the chain on once the rear wheel comes off. Each pulley appears to be held on with a simple allen head screw. How hard could it be?
Believe me, i've done my share of motorcycle chains. I'd much rather take of two pulleys than drive out and stake rivets.
Believe me, i've done my share of motorcycle chains. I'd much rather take of two pulleys than drive out and stake rivets.
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Originally Posted by Eric_The_Jew
Okay, I tried searching but I didn't find the answer I was looking for. Anyway, i'm trying to remove the chain on my fulll Ultegra equipped bike. The front derailleur appears to have a screw that will allow the derailleur guides/frame to come apart and allow the chain to be pulled through.
As far as the rear guide/idler pulleys go: can I just remove the allen bolts that go through the center of them to remove the chain? Every thread I found on here talks about cutting the chain/removing pins and this and that to get the chain off of the bike. My method seems much easier. What am I missing?
As far as the rear guide/idler pulleys go: can I just remove the allen bolts that go through the center of them to remove the chain? Every thread I found on here talks about cutting the chain/removing pins and this and that to get the chain off of the bike. My method seems much easier. What am I missing?
10-30-06, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by huytheskigod
The chain will still be wrapped around your chainstay.
yeah...that too....forgot about that...
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Get a SRAM chain or Wipperman then you will not have to worry about taking the pulleys off again!
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Originally Posted by huytheskigod
The chain will still be wrapped around your chainstay.
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10-30-06, 08:27 AM
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1 Park Tools Chain Tool Approx. $12
2. SRAM Power link $5.00
Problem solved.
Get a SRAM or Wipperman chain and your golden in the future. IMO a chain tool is an essential item for any cyclist who does their own basic maintenaince.
2. SRAM Power link $5.00
Problem solved.
Get a SRAM or Wipperman chain and your golden in the future. IMO a chain tool is an essential item for any cyclist who does their own basic maintenaince.
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that's one thing I learned after 35 years of cycling is that you should not work on bikes in the middle of the night or after bars close. but do youself a favor and buy a masterlink for your chain if you plan on removing it for any reason.
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Originally Posted by huytheskigod
The chain will still be wrapped around your chainstay.
Dont' knock it till you have tried it...not that I have...but I was in my LBS when some dolt brought in his bike to have a new chain put on after he removed the old one this way.
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10-30-06, 08:50 AM
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Not if you cut the seat stay with a hack saw to get it off.
Dont' knock it till you have tried it...not that I have...but I was in my LBS when some dolt brought in his bike to have a new chain put on after he removed the old one this way.
Dont' knock it till you have tried it...not that I have...but I was in my LBS when some dolt brought in his bike to have a new chain put on after he removed the old one this way.
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Originally Posted by cycle17
1 Park Tools Chain Tool Approx. $12
2. SRAM Power link $5.00
Problem solved.
Get a SRAM or Wipperman chain and your golden in the future. IMO a chain tool is an essential item for any cyclist who does their own basic maintenaince.
2. SRAM Power link $5.00
Problem solved.
Get a SRAM or Wipperman chain and your golden in the future. IMO a chain tool is an essential item for any cyclist who does their own basic maintenaince.
10-30-06, 10:50 AM
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^^ Whatever chain tool you like then. The point was just that a chain tool is a failry essential item.
P.S. I've never had a problem taking a chain apart or putting links back in with my Park.
P.S. I've never had a problem taking a chain apart or putting links back in with my Park.
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Chain tool: $10
Replacement pins: $5
Not having to saw your frame in half to remove chain: Priceless
I actually just took my chain off this weekend for a thorough cleaning. It took less than 5 minutes total for removal and replacement. My next chain will be a Wipperman with the power link.
Replacement pins: $5
Not having to saw your frame in half to remove chain: Priceless
I actually just took my chain off this weekend for a thorough cleaning. It took less than 5 minutes total for removal and replacement. My next chain will be a Wipperman with the power link.
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the worst part is just getting your hands all greasy...
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My Ultegra chain has a quick release link. You just squeeze the special links together.
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My Ultegra chain has a quick release link. You just squeeze the special links together.
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Arrrghhh......Damnit Jim!!! Just when I try to re-invent the wheel, I overlook the obvious. Looks like i'll be getting a chain tool. Thanks for the help (and sarcastic remarks) 
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Originally Posted by slowandsteady
Shimano doesn't have a quick release link.
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Originally Posted by slowandsteady
Chain tool: $10
Replacement pins: $5
Not having to saw your frame in half to remove chain: Priceless
I actually just took my chain off this weekend for a thorough cleaning. It took less than 5 minutes total for removal and replacement. My next chain will be a Wipperman with the power link.
Replacement pins: $5
Not having to saw your frame in half to remove chain: Priceless
I actually just took my chain off this weekend for a thorough cleaning. It took less than 5 minutes total for removal and replacement. My next chain will be a Wipperman with the power link.
ALL travel bikes should come with chains that you can take apart WITHOUT Tools!!