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Old 12-10-06, 12:47 PM   #1
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quietest trainer?

I have been saving my pennies for a couple months now with the hopes of purchasing a cheap set of rollers and a nice trainer to replace my ascent magnetic trainer. My main concern is that the trainer is quiet and offers plenty of resistance. I do not care how close a feel the trainer is to riding on the rode. I had my mind set on the 1up but it seems that KK has come out with a new road machine model for only 219$ shipped. Being a college student, budget is an issue. Anyone have either of these models? I have done a search and even read the reviews. I like the convenient features of the 1up as compared to the KK. Anyone know about the quietness of either? Any advice would be appreciated.
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Old 12-10-06, 12:56 PM   #2
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I have the 1up and it's pretty quiet. I run the spinervals dvs on my laptop with the cruddy laptop speakers and can hear the sound no problem over the trainer noise. It also has good resistance (and good 'roadlike' feel to boot). I can't compare it that other model.
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I have a Travel Trac Real Axiom and it is fairly quiet until around 18mph. after that not so much.
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How quiet is the Kurt Kenetic?

I've asked for a Kurt Kinetic Road Machine Fluid Trainer as my primary Christmas gift based on the glowing recommendation of my LBS. How does that model rank in terms of noise?
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I've got the KK Road Machine (paid $400 canadian) and can hear the spinervals guy loud and clear over my built in laptop speakers.

You'll definitely want a slick trainer tire. Even a bit of tread will make the trainer whine.
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Anybody have any info regarding the transportability of the KK? I know the 1UP folds to be flat and does not weigh much. How about the KK?

Regarding the mounting mechanism for the KK, how easy is it to operate? I hear the 1UP is super nice.
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If you search the forum, there's a thread from the last 2 months comparing the 1up to the KK. Basically, the 1up was quieter but the OP thought the KK had better road feel. It's obviously just one person's opinion, but they made a solid effort at quantifying their review.
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I appreciate that. I did read the review before posting. Unfortunately, the review did not answer all of my questions such as the packability of the KK, if it has a convenient mounting mechanism, etc.
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I appreciate that. I did read the review before posting. Unfortunately, the review did not answer all of my questions such as the packability of the KK, if it has a convenient mounting mechanism, etc.
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What do you mean by packability? It's rugged and heavy, I would not describe it as packable. I am less than thrilled with the mouth of the axle holder on the QR side. But I tried a couple others, and they weren't much different.

In terms of road feel. the KK is very good. But there are dozens of trainers on the market; it's more a question of finding the right one for you. I think the cheap KK ones
are wind trainers, very noisy.

Next time Performance offers 10 or 20% off, you might consoder trying one of theirs.
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Tacx are the quietest by far. They use elastomer drums.
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packing the KK road machine shouldn't be any more a hurdle than packing your bike. If you want to move it, you will.
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I understand your point but I drive a miata, so making traveling back and forth from school can be cramped with all my bike stuff. Some trainers are too big to fit in my trunk and no wheels can fit in there. I like the feature of the 1UP that makes it fold down small.
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P.S. I'll check the tacx out.
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I bought the KK Road Machine a month ago, it's quiet and resistance is good. It's very easy to set up (it was my first and was no problem at all) and folds flat for travel.
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$219.00 shipped??? Where did you find that? I was going to order the KK Road Machine from Doctorbicycle.com on Monday...he has it for $219.00 but S&H is $29.00.
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I asked my LBS if he could meet that price and it came in at $225. I bought the KK there. FWIW, the legs do "fold-up" but the resistance unit stills sticks out a bit. I wouldn't have any problems getting it in the back of my Fiero, if I ever tried but I don't know what a Miata's trunk is like.
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The Kinetic is a great trainer, I've been very pleased. Noise is not a problem at all, and I use a Conti' trainer tire.
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$219.00 shipped??? Where did you find that? I was going to order the KK Road Machine from Doctorbicycle.com on Monday...he has it for $219.00 but S&H is $29.00.
Cannot find the Doctorbicycle.com site. Do you have a working link? Thanks.
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DOH!!! My bad!

http://www.bicycledoctorusa.com/

The site is a bit lame but he does respond to E-mails and will give the price that way or by phone. Nothing but good reviews from what I found on the forums.
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http://www.bicycledoctorusa.com/

The site is a bit lame but he does respond to E-mails and will give the price that way or by phone. Nothing but good reviews from what I found on the forums.
Thanks a lot. By far the best price I have seen.
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Just got off the phone with Eric from bicycledoctorusa. Very nice and courteous. I got the KK Road Machine, the KK riser block, and the Ultimate Pro Elite stand. I just love Christmas shopping for myself!
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I've got a clyclops fluid2. It's pretty quiet. I watched the 5th element the other day while riding it. Depending on what time I get out of work I'll either go for a ride outside or I'll watch sin city while on the trainer.

Yeah, some people say it'll probably leak on me someday.
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Well I decided to order the 1up. There were too many features I just could not pass up, not to mention the satisfaction guarantee! It should be here by wednesday, at which point I will post a review.
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