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Old 01-10-07, 10:32 PM
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Sidi and Speedplay

Just wanted to make sure before I purchase some speedplay zeros, can I use speedplay pedals on my Sidi shoes?
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Yes.
The Speedplay cleats that come with pedals will have a small adapter plate (with shims for precise fit!) to make a three holer fit the Speedplay 4 holer.

Beware: the adapter plate can be overtorqued as the metal nuts are held by the plastic plate where the cleats attach.
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+1... what he said

may I suggest these as well...

https://www.koolkovers.us/order.html

they'll help prolong the life of your cleats, and make them easier to walk in. I use sidi genius 5's and speedplay zeros - real b*tch to walk in, but these help tremendously, and you're not self conscious of trying to avoid walking on the cleats.
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In addition to the 4 bolt to 3 bolt plate, you may also need to use shims, depending on the amount of curvature in the shoe. The adapter plate needs to be flat on the shoe for the cleat to work best. The shims come with the cleats, so its no big deal.
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My Speedplay cleats seem to work better with my newer Sidis than they ever did with my old Carnac shoes.
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Speedplay says, "Yes!" https://www.speedplay.com/index.cfm?f...ide.searchroad


... and their covers are only $10...
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There's a trick to using the Sidi/Speedplay combo and losing most of the stack height increase that you gain from the adapter. On the bottom of the Sidis is a removable plate. Rather than mount the 4-hole adapter to this plate, remove the plate and mount the adapter to the recessed area. If you use LeWedges, you may have to trim them a little, but that's no problem.

Here's a pic of how mine looked:



It brings the stack height back down to about as low as you can get it without the pedal spindle rubbing the sole.
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Yep ... I ride Speedplay X5's and Sidi Zetas. Great combo. And ABSOLUTELY get the cleat covers -- saves the cleat, and makes it so much easier to walk.
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Originally Posted by cydewaze
There's a trick to using the Sidi/Speedplay combo and losing most of the stack height increase that you gain from the adapter. On the bottom of the Sidis is a removable plate. Rather than mount the 4-hole adapter to this plate, remove the plate and mount the adapter to the recessed area. If you use LeWedges, you may have to trim them a little, but that's no problem.

Here's a pic of how mine looked:



It brings the stack height back down to about as low as you can get it without the pedal spindle rubbing the sole.
I like the idea, but I am not sure if I can do that with the new 6.6s. I believe they may have a full carbon sole, meaning no inserts to take out. I may be wrong though.
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Originally Posted by mike9903
I like the idea, but I am not sure if I can do that with the new 6.6s. I believe they may have a full carbon sole, meaning no inserts to take out. I may be wrong though.
Ah, you may be correct.

On the flip side, you'll like the carbon soles. I recently switched my Sidis for a pair of Specialized BG Carbon Pros. Very noticeable difference.
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i'm using sidi mega lorica with speedplay frogs...work fine
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Originally Posted by goaliedad30
And ABSOLUTELY get the cleat covers -- saves the cleat, and makes it so much easier to walk.
This illustrates a drawback of Speedplays in comparison to other pedals, such as Looks (1) The larger cleats make it more difficult to walk; (2) You are thus more obliged to bring along cleat covers; (3) The Speedplay cleat covers are likewise larger and heavier, and thus more irksome to have to carry.
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Removing the insert from the sole

Can anyone tell me how to remove the insert from the Millenium 2 sole on my Genius 5's so I can mount my Speedplay cleat lower?
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Originally Posted by cydewaze
Ah, you may be correct.

On the flip side, you'll like the carbon soles. I recently switched my Sidis for a pair of Specialized BG Carbon Pros. Very noticeable difference.
How are they different? I have Shimano shoes that I will eventually replace with either Sidis or Specialized shoes. So, I would like to hear your opinion.
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Originally Posted by CastIron
Yes.
The Speedplay cleats that come with pedals will have a small adapter plate (with shims for precise fit!) to make a three holer fit the Speedplay 4 holer.

Beware: the adapter plate can be overtorqued as the metal nuts are held by the plastic plate where the cleats attach.


fyi, per speedplay.com, the torque setting is 35 inch-lbs~4nm's
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35 inch-lb's for the 5mm screw
20 inch-lb's for the 11mm screw
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Originally Posted by mike9903
Just wanted to make sure before I purchase some Speedplay Zero pedals, can I use Speedplay cleats on my Sidi shoes?
Yes, that is my exact set up.
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Originally Posted by Ritterview
This illustrates a drawback of Speedplays in comparison to other pedals, such as Looks (1) The larger cleats make it more difficult to walk; (2) You are thus more obliged to bring along cleat covers; (3) The Speedplay cleat covers are likewise larger and heavier, and thus more irksome to have to carry.
Agreed, I bought the cleat covers because they were so recommended here, but don't like using them and quickly quit carrying them around. So if anyone does use them PM me and i'll mail em to you!

If the pedal wasn't so fantastic I would certainly be using a different brand because they stink to walk in...
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Originally Posted by grahny
+1... what he said

may I suggest these as well...

https://www.koolkovers.us/order.html

they'll help prolong the life of your cleats, and make them easier to walk in. I use sidi genius 5's and speedplay zeros - real b*tch to walk in, but these help tremendously, and you're not self conscious of trying to avoid walking on the cleats.
Are these durable? I've gone through several pairs of the Coffee Shop covers, as the little tabs that hold the cover to the cleat keep shearing off, rendering them useless.

(edit: I think mine are the "Kool Covers," I'll have to check when I get home.)
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Originally Posted by CastIron
Yes.
The Speedplay cleats that come with pedals will have a small adapter plate (with shims for precise fit!) to make a three holer fit the Speedplay 4 holer.

Beware: the adapter plate can be overtorqued as the metal nuts are held by the plastic plate where the cleats attach.
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+1... what he said

may I suggest these as well...

https://www.koolkovers.us/order.html

they'll help prolong the life of your cleats, and make them easier to walk in. I use sidi genius 5's and speedplay zeros - real b*tch to walk in, but these help tremendously, and you're not self conscious of trying to avoid walking on the cleats.

I'm running Sidi Genius 5 and Speedplay Zero with no problem.

You will want to get covers for the cleats, but I go a step further and place a bead of ShoeGoo across the tops and bottoms of the metal plates (above and below the engagement area) including the screw heads for the metal plate. The ShoeGoo protects the screw heads from wearing down so much that you can't get them back out when it comes time to replace the cleats. It also makes them less slippery if you need to walk a few steps in them--but use the koolkovers for longer distances.
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