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Old 01-13-07, 09:07 AM
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To cover your bases I'd go with Record shifter and FD, Force RD, DA brakes, and either Force or Record cranks. It may not shift right but at least you'll satisfy everyone on BF.

If money is no object then Record is the only way to go. It's 8 ounces lighter than DA. Force and DA are more closely compared to Chorus than Record, on all points of your criteria.
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
To cover your bases I'd go with Record shifter and FD, Force RD, DA brakes, and either Force or Record cranks. It may not shift right but at least you'll satisfy everyone on BF.

If money is no object then Record is the only way to go. It's 8 ounces lighter than DA. Force and DA are more closely compared to Chorus than Record, on all points of your criteria.
blah blah blah... campy shill.
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Originally Posted by botto
blah blah blah... campy shill.
Dam straight..every time I write the words Campy, Campagnolo, Record, or Chorus, Campy sends me a penny. So far I've saved enough to send both my kids to Harvard.
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
Dam straight..every time I write the words Campy, Campagnolo, Record, or Chorus, Campy sends me a penny. So far I've saved enough to send both my kids to Harvard.


I'll bet your active participation in movie review forums, vintage audiophile forums and choir/symphony forums helped considerably.
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Originally Posted by jrennie
do what I did:
Sram brifters, rd, fd
DA cassette
Campy ultra torque cranks
the perfect combo for the indecisive cyclist
I am very indecisive about my next group purchase so this may work out perfectly for me. I know for sure I will be using SRAM Force brifters, FD, and RD. The chain will probably be SRAM, cassette will be Shimano. I don't know for sure what the crank will be. I may consider using a Campy UT crank.
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Originally Posted by jrennie
do what I did:
Sram brifters, rd, fd
DA cassette
Campy ultra torque cranks
the perfect combo for the indecisive cyclist
Im pretty much in the same boat.

SRAM brifters, Sram RD, Ultegra FD, Ultegra crank, Ultegra brakes, Ultegra cassette, Ultegra chain

Works AWESOME
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Originally Posted by kevinmcdade
I am very indecisive about my next group purchase so this may work out perfectly for me. I know for sure I will be using SRAM Force brifters, FD, and RD. The chain will probably be SRAM, cassette will be Shimano. I don't know for sure what the crank will be. I may consider using a Campy UT crank.
Use a Shimano FD. The SRAM FD is kind of cheesy. I suppose it does its job but I think the Shimano piece is made better.
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Originally Posted by JayC
Use a Shimano FD. The SRAM FD is kind of cheesy. I suppose it does its job but I think the Shimano piece is made better.
Good information, Thanks!!! I can put that $65 into other areas of my upgrades.
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I'm another mutt advocate.

Force brifters, Force FD and RD.

FSA Compact crank

Zero Gravity brakes


Other bikes are pure DA
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No Dura Ace on your racing bike.
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Will you have more than one bike set up with road components? Do you have one now? My questioning has to do with the easy of swapping some parts from one bike to another in a pintch or as needed. Sure, mixing 10 and 9 or 8 speed does not really work, but there are enough possible swap overs.
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The Ultra Torque Campy in Compact rules in either Chorus or Record. The weight between these two is insignificant. Save your $450 and get some other stuff.
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Record. you wont regret it
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i am most likely not going to mismatch the components. but is any one familiar with SRAMs double tap shifters are that any good?
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used them all. all work nice.
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Originally Posted by thegunlap
i am most likely not going to mismatch the components. but is any one familiar with SRAMs double tap shifters are that any good?

Double tap FTW!!

I have SRAM shifters on both of my bikes. Force on one and Rival on the other. I love them. They are more comfortable to me than Shimano and I like the way the double tap works.
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campy record. works for me
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Recently Tested all three

Wound up w/ D/A, Ultegra, FSA mix. For me, that the most significant factor was the fit and function of the levers. Have you tried shifting on each? Focus on the fit of your hand on the hood and levers. Do you have to adjust your hands too much?

Good luck. After a while, I'm sure you'll get used to whatever top grouppo you choose.
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Originally Posted by deskjockey
Wound up w/ D/A, Ultegra, FSA mix. For me, that the most significant factor was the fit and function of the levers. Have you tried shifting on each? Focus on the fit of your hand on the hood and levers. Do you have to adjust your hands too much?
Thats exactly how I ended up with SRAM, sorta. I took a leap of faith on my Fusion and put a complete Rival group on it. I liked it so much, I took the Shimano shifters off my Blue and mutted it up with a Rival RD. Just goes to show that the only real way to find what you like is to ride different groups. I hate, no, I HATE Shimano shifters. They just are not comfortable to me in any way, shape or form. The SRAM stuff is so much nicer but then there are others who feel the exact opposite.
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Sorry if I'm dredging up an "old" thread, but I was curious if a setup like this would work...

SRAM Rival:
-RD
-Brifters
-Brake Calipers
-Cassette
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Campagnolo Chorus/Record:
-Record FD
-Chorus Ultra-Torque Carbon Cranks OR FSA Gossamer MegaExo with TT Chainrings

Are there any forseeable problems?
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What is so special about Record and Dura Ace other than BLING. Chorus and Ultegra work just as well and cost a lot less. The high end groups have, at best, a few ounces of weight advantage. Most riders couldn't tell the difference.

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A Range Rover and a Chevy Tahoe may be a few pounds different in weight, both have hauling capacity, and most kids couldn't care any less sitting in the rear seat.

But wordly souls would still get the Range Rover. Others will get the Tahoe and thumb their noses at the Rover. Chevy sells more tahoes, but select few drive the Rover and swear by them.

Sem ting wit de Campee or de Sheemano or ze Shiram.
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Originally Posted by cs1
What is so special about Record and Dura Ace other than BLING. Chorus and Ultegra work just as well and cost a lot less. The high end groups have, at best, a few ounces of weight advantage. Most riders couldn't tell the difference.

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Do people need a reason other than bling?

Anyway, can someone please post whether or not SRAM brake/shift levers will work with Campagnolo brake calipers or FD's? Someone mentioned something about the pull ratio of DA being 2:1, SRAM being 1:1 but was unsure of Campagnolo's...?
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Seriously consider Rival instead of Force. There's really pretty little weight difference, and HUGE $ difference between the two. Rival has the look of a great pricepoint/weight combination.
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