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Old 03-26-07, 11:15 AM   #1
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Transporting a bike in a hatch??

Just checking to see if anyone has developed a home built system for transporting and securing their bikes in hatch?? I picked up a Mazda3 GT hatch last week, for the sole reason of being able to get bikes in the back. My wife and I had a Mazda3 sedan and transporting the bikes inside the vehicles was a pain. We can fit both our bikes in the back, without the front wheel on, standing up. That was our goal and it works. I want to devise a system that secures the bike so we don't need to bungy them to the inside of the vehicle. I went out and bought some truck bed fork mounting brackets and plan on mounting them to a piece of 1x3x4' long and secured the wood to the back of the rear seat headrests. This should keep the front ends where I want them, now what to do with the rear end. I thought about getting another piece of wood, with some slots for the wheels and then securing those to the trunk carpet with velcro. I can't be drilling holes and such, because the car is a lease.

Does anyone have photos of their set-ups, or do most people just throw'm in and go.

I want to make sure the bikes are safe and sound for the longs drives and even the short drives if it's an easy system.

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Can you use a rack like this: http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?sku=1123
The base rack is an aluminum board (different lengths are available). Fork and wheel mounts that attach to it are sold separately. You can insert the attachments anywhere along the length of the board and twist or slide them around as needed for your car's configuration. Because of the weight and shape of the board, it is very stable inside an SUV or hatchback (assuming you have enough roof height to fit your bikes inside upright).

Here's another vendor with more photos: http://www.bikemania.biz/Saris_Traps...raps_34_35.htm
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I have a Nissan Xterra and my saddle on the road bikes is too tall for upright stowage. Really ticks me off, and I don't really want to losen my seat calmp every time I take the bike in an out.

Now I also own a '94 Corvette that I can fit my road bike in the hatchback area perfectly with both wheels removed. However you could never fit two bikes in there together!
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Have a 2001 Camero, just pull the front wheel and set it in. Could never do 2 bikes though!
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I use (more or less) the same setup that you've described. For securing the back of the bike: my car has some hooks for cargo netting, they work perfectly for letting me strap down the bike with ratcheting tie-downs.

I have a post with pictures in this thread...
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I have a 2007 Toyota RAV4. I have a couple of traps mouted on a 4" x 6" x 32" white pine box which I made. This box is located in the rear storage area. I just flip open the storage are recline the one of the back seat (60/40 split). I then mount the front wheel to the trap. My bike seat remains at riding height (I am 5'10" tall). This solution works great because when the bike is not in use the traps are hidden in the storage area. It only uses about 1/3 of the storage area space as well.

If you use traps mounted on a board uou may have to do something to keep the board from sliding around (I did). Other than that the traps work great.
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Have a 2001 Camero, just pull the front wheel and set it in. Could never do 2 bikes though!
camAro!!!! it's like a bad craigslist nightmare!!

i've fit 2 bikes in my Corrado before. my road bike fit in with front wheel removed, had to remove both wheels on my MTB to fit it in along with it. laid down, sheet between each bike so nothing would be scratched up.
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I use (more or less) the same setup that you've described. For securing the back of the bike: my car has some hooks for cargo netting, they work perfectly for letting me strap down the bike with ratcheting tie-downs.

I have a post with pictures in this thread...
Bingo!

Thanks!

So securing the rear isn't a big deal then...I see us putting a block of foam between both bikes and then strapping it the way you have it, cool...I'll have to buy some extra straps so if we have a passenger we can strap them to the roof
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To the OP, can you really get a road bike in the back of a Mazda3 hatchback upright? I also use a rack something like this: to carry my bike in the back of my Explorer. I would like to replace my Explorer with something smaller, more economical, and more fun to drive, and retain the capability to carry my bike as I am now doing. My short list includes the Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe, and the Mazda3 hatchback. I would prefer the Mazda for its sportiness, but I didn't think a bike would fit in the back, even with the front wheel and seat removed.
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Get yourself a Corvette - small, sporty, gets 28mpg highway and fun to drive. Only fits one bike though!! Oh and one person when carrying bike and gear.

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To the OP, can you really get a road bike in the back of a Mazda3 hatchback upright? I also use a rack something like this: to carry my bike in the back of my Explorer. I would like to replace my Explorer with something smaller, more economical, and more fun to drive, and retain the capability to carry my bike as I am now doing. My short list includes the Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe, and the Mazda3 hatchback. I would prefer the Mazda for its sportiness, but I didn't think a bike would fit in the back, even with the front wheel and seat removed.
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I'm trying to figure this one out, too. I have a van and do the same thing. But - the van has a long cargo space. The wheelbase of a bike from forks to rear whel with front wheel removed is longer than one might imagine, and the handlebars make it even more awkward. I just can't imagine having 60"+ in length available in that car.

Anyway, in my van I thought I would need a rear wheel tie down but found it unnnecessary. The rear never moves. We have been on several cross-country trips and I never tie the rear down,

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To the OP, can you really get a road bike in the back of a Mazda3 hatchback upright? I also use a rack something like this: to carry my bike in the back of my Explorer. I would like to replace my Explorer with something smaller, more economical, and more fun to drive, and retain the capability to carry my bike as I am now doing. My short list includes the Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe, and the Mazda3 hatchback. I would prefer the Mazda for its sportiness, but I didn't think a bike would fit in the back, even with the front wheel and seat removed.
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To the OP, can you really get a road bike in the back of a Mazda3 hatchback upright? I also use a rack something like this: to carry my bike in the back of my Explorer. I would like to replace my Explorer with something smaller, more economical, and more fun to drive, and retain the capability to carry my bike as I am now doing. My short list includes the Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe, and the Mazda3 hatchback. I would prefer the Mazda for its sportiness, but I didn't think a bike would fit in the back, even with the front wheel and seat removed.
Yup,

I got my wifes 52 Roubaix and her 49 Kona Jake the Snake...My 54 Roubaix should fit in too, but it will need to go near the middle of the car because the hatch door bows out a bit in the middle...

BTW not to seem bias, but get the Mazda over the Toyota/Pontiac. The Mazda is bigger and has a better motor, more power! Now if gas mileage is you primary concern, then it's the Toyota for sure, but the Mazda is a heck of a lot more fun to drive...Honestly the car handles like it is on rails. I've got a buddy at work that has the sedan and his uncle took it out for a spin. His uncles owns a mercedes and he couldn't believe how well the car drove and handled for a supposed entry-level vehicle.
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Mine that is pictured is a Sportworks, now owned by Thule. Thule offers a very similar hitch rack designed for 2 bikes. Much easier then putting the bikes in the car or trying to get them out.

When the rack is off the car, you can't hardly see the hitch. As a side bonus leave the rack on the car folded up and it blocks your license plate from photo radar
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Why not buy a roof rack?

That was really the best solution for me. It allows me to carry more than two people in the car, gear in the trunk, and two bikes on the roof.

BTW-I drive a 4 door sedan.
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Why not buy a roof rack?

That was really the best solution for me. It allows me to carry more than two people in the car, gear in the trunk, and two bikes on the roof.

BTW-I drive a 4 door sedan.
do a search under "roof rack" and see how many guys have destroyed bikes on those things.

I use a hatchback, pop off the front wheel, stick the bike in, put a soft bag of stuff, then the wheel. It's not going to go anywhere, and you don't have to worry about garages, bikes falling off, theft, etc.
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Why not buy a roof rack?

That was really the best solution for me. It allows me to carry more than two people in the car, gear in the trunk, and two bikes on the roof.

BTW-I drive a 4 door sedan.
For me, it's because I don't travel with my bikes very often and when I do it's just my wife and I. Plus, when we do travel it's usually a fair distance. Either way I don't want a permanent rack on the car since it drags down the fuel economy. Not to mention the bikes are a lot safer in the car then outside of the car. I've got enough experience doing the 14 hour drive down south with bikes on the back that I want them inside the car. On our honeymoon I had to re-cable both MTB's because they were on the trunk rack going through Kentucky in a monsoon. By the time we got home neither bike would shift worth a crap. I don't screw around with that. It's $50 in parts to replace the cables so I make the change, but it all could have been saved if the bikes would have been in the car.
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On my RSX hatchback and with both rear seats down, I can fit my bike with front wheel off. It also fits two bikes if all wheels are off. Frames lie horizontally with no overlap, and wheels on top of bikes. I've tried this (bikes 52 & 54cm).
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For me, it's because I don't travel with my bikes very often and when I do it's just my wife and I. Plus, when we do travel it's usually a fair distance. Either way I don't want a permanent rack on the car since it drags down the fuel economy. Not to mention the bikes are a lot safer in the car then outside of the car. I've got enough experience doing the 14 hour drive down south with bikes on the back that I want them inside the car. On our honeymoon I had to re-cable both MTB's because they were on the trunk rack going through Kentucky in a monsoon. By the time we got home neither bike would shift worth a crap. I don't screw around with that. It's $50 in parts to replace the cables so I make the change, but it all could have been saved if the bikes would have been in the car.
No need to get defensive about your choices. External racks are OK for some people, but others will want more protection for their bikes. Next time I get a new car, it will probably be something like a RAV4 that can fit 2 bikes inside standing up (plus lots of gear).
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No need to get defensive about your choices. External racks are OK for some people, but others will want more protection for their bikes. Next time I get a new car, it will probably be something like a RAV4 that can fit 2 bikes inside standing up (plus lots of gear).
Sorry didn't mean to sound defensive...Just trying to give my reasoning..
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For me, it's because I don't travel with my bikes very often and when I do it's just my wife and I. Plus, when we do travel it's usually a fair distance. Either way I don't want a permanent rack on the car since it drags down the fuel economy. Not to mention the bikes are a lot safer in the car then outside of the car. I've got enough experience doing the 14 hour drive down south with bikes on the back that I want them inside the car. On our honeymoon I had to re-cable both MTB's because they were on the trunk rack going through Kentucky in a monsoon. By the time we got home neither bike would shift worth a crap. I don't screw around with that. It's $50 in parts to replace the cables so I make the change, but it all could have been saved if the bikes would have been in the car.
No problem. I just thought I'd throw it out there as an option. I'm in SoCal where it doesn't rain for months at a time so I sometimes forget that other parts of the country get rain on an almost daily basis occasionally.

I have a locking rack but even when I'm traveling with my bikes I generally don't leave the car unattended or out of sight for longer than a few minutes at a time. It's easy to remove the rack too so I just lift it off in one piece, set it in my garage and put it back on if I need it.

I hear you on the gas mileage though. My gas mileage sucks with that thing on the roof of my car. I drove out to Palm Springs on Saturday and took the rack off first and averaged almost 30mpg. With the rack on I'm lucky to get 23 on the freeway.
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Get yourself a Corvette - small, sporty, gets 28mpg highway and fun to drive. Only fits one bike though!! Oh and one person when carrying bike and gear.
Uh-huh. And they're about four times what I want to spend. I also want 4 doors. I'd still like to have one though. I'm just not willing to pay that much for something that impractical.
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Yup,

I got my wifes 52 Roubaix and her 49 Kona Jake the Snake...My 54 Roubaix should fit in too, but it will need to go near the middle of the car because the hatch door bows out a bit in the middle...
Thanks for the info. I need to take a look at one and do a test fit with my bike.

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BTW not to seem bias, but get the Mazda over the Toyota/Pontiac. The Mazda is bigger and has a better motor, more power! Now if gas mileage is you primary concern, then it's the Toyota for sure, but the Mazda is a heck of a lot more fun to drive...Honestly the car handles like it is on rails. I've got a buddy at work that has the sedan and his uncle took it out for a spin. His uncles owns a mercedes and he couldn't believe how well the car drove and handled for a supposed entry-level vehicle.
The sportiness of this vehicle is what attracts me to it. My concern is that it's practicality is not what I need. The Matrix/Vibe is more practical but less sporty. If I can convince myself that the Mazda is practical enough, I'll cross the Matrix/Vibe off my list.

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I have a 2007 Toyota RAV4. I have a couple of traps mouted on a 4" x 6" x 32" white pine box which I made. This box is located in the rear storage area.
Could you please post pics? I want to do similar in my Honda Odyssey.
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Get yourself a Corvette - small, sporty, gets 28mpg highway and fun to drive. Only fits one bike though!! Oh and one person when carrying bike and gear.
I thought you needed to pass the middle-age crisis test before getting one of those.
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is the roof line really that tall on your Mazda3? On my 92 civic hatch could only fit the bike on it's side.
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