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Old 03-31-07, 08:16 PM
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Your training wheels/your racing wheels

What do you train on? What do you race on?
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I train on Bontrager Race Lites....I will be racing on Niobium 30 wheels that Mike Garcia built up.
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Train on AC Hurricanes, race on AC 420's.
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DT Swiss RR1.1's with Powertap SL for training.

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bontrager race/ race- Easton Vista SL wheelset, mavic kysrium sl3
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You ask good questions. But really there are three categories: wet training, dry training, and race.

Wet training: It's the rims that're important. Mavic Open Pro Ceramic. None other. Lace them to your favorite hubs or to the hubs you've got. And build them yourself. #1 it's hard to find them already built up and custom is expensive. #2 you'll enjoy the experience. It's easy to find instructions on the web, and you don't need a truing stand. You can true them perfectly right on your bike, though you will need a workstand for the bike, but you should have that anyway. Buy the spokes from your LBS to get them the right length. These rims are so great because you won't wear them out, even after several seasons in the rain. And because they're really easy to change tires on.

Dry training: I run Rolfs because I've used them and like them and because I got a great deal on them.

Race: I don't formally race. Wouldn't mind having Zipp 506 set.
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
You ask good questions. But really there are three categories: wet training, dry training, and race.

Wet training: It's the rims that're important. Mavic Open Pro Ceramic. None other. Lace them to your favorite hubs or to the hubs you've got. And build them yourself. #1 it's hard to find them already built up and custom is expensive. #2 you'll enjoy the experience. It's easy to find instructions on the web, and you don't need a truing stand. You can true them perfectly right on your bike, though you will need a workstand for the bike, but you should have that anyway. Buy the spokes from your LBS to get them the right length. These rims are so great because you won't wear them out, even after several seasons in the rain. And because they're really easy to change tires on.

Dry training: I run Rolfs because I've used them and like them and because I got a great deal on them.

Race: I don't formally race. Wouldn't mind having Zipp 506 set.
I'm new to the serious biking scene so I was unaware of that. Thanks for the info. Given where I live I would probably just go with a "dry training" set up. At my level and budget, I will likely race and train on the same wheel set for a while before having set just for racing. Another interesting thought would be what is the difference in price (MSRP-vs the great deal that you might have got) on your training vs racing wheels.
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Originally Posted by Mukluk
I'm new to the serious biking scene so I was unaware of that. Thanks for the info. Given where I live I would probably just go with a "dry training" set up. At my level and budget, I will likely race and train on the same wheel set for a while before having set just for racing. Another interesting thought would be what is the difference in price (MSRP-vs the great deal that you might have got) on your training vs racing wheels.
I just train on whatever comes on the bike, so right now it's Ksyrium Equipes. For racing, I have tubular Ksyrium SLs that I only paid $400 for used with new tires. Retail is $875 plus $120 for tires.
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I race/train on Mavic Ksyrium ES's. I have a pair of older Ksyrium SL's I ride on salty winter roads. They're fine in wet or dry conditions and wear well. Shopping for race wheels now (probably Zipp 404s).

As far as I'm concerned you might want a set of wheels for riding on sloppy/salty roads but beyond that all this 'only Open Pro Ceramic rims in the rain' nonsense is rather silly. I ride in the rain often.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
I race/train on Mavic Ksyrium ES's. I have a pair of older Ksyrium SL's I ride on salty winter roads. They're fine in wet or dry conditions and wear well. Shopping for race wheels now (probably Zipp 404s).

As far as I'm concerned you might want a set of wheels for riding on sloppy/salty roads but beyond that all this 'only Open Pro Ceramic rims in the rain' nonsense is rather silly. I ride in the rain often.
So how many rims have you worn out? I've went through the rims on two wheel sets before I saw someone with ceramics. That adds up, besides it's dangerous and a total pain in the butt. It depends on how much you ride in the rain and how hilly. It's all that grit. My shoes (Koolstop salmon for normal rims, green for ceramic) sound like a grinding machine in the rain.

Many folks I ride with have a story about just how it was the first time their brake shoe got caught in a disintegrating rim. Ceramics don't seem to wear.
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
So how many rims have you worn out? I've went through the rims on two wheel sets before I saw someone with ceramics. That adds up, besides it's dangerous and a total pain in the butt. It depends on how much you ride in the rain and how hilly. It's all that grit. My shoes (Koolstop salmon for normal rims, green for ceramic) sound like a grinding machine in the rain.

Many folks I ride with have a story about just how it was the first time their brake shoe got caught in a disintegrating rim. Ceramics don't seem to wear.
Patentcad did around 13,000 miles last year I believe. I think he missed a total of like 6 days of riding for the year.
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I don't train or race. My nice bike is my toy, and nothing more. I ride with Rolf Prima Elan Aeros in the dry and Easton Circuits in the rain. Mostly to protect the brake rim surface, but also to switch to a more cut-resistant tire. I'm adding a Spinergy Stealth PBO set to the mix to give me another toy to play with.
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Patentcad did around 13,000 miles last year I believe. I think he missed a total of like 6 days of riding for the year.
I've ridden some in NY. It does rain there. He can tell us about his rim wear situation. I'd guess he must have gone through one wheelset in that distance. That would be about normal.
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Bell training wheelset:
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Bell training wheelset:
You can't tease us like that, show it on your bike with you aboard!!! Bet you dust them all!!!
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