Worst ratio performance to price?
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Worst ratio performance to price?
Some random guy pulled up next to me on my solo ride yesterday and within seconds he as belting off a litany of expensive things that poorly translate to speed or are otherwise generally useless, "ceramic bearings, Assos bibs, front wheel disk..." I think my shaped Cervelo tubing irked him.
I then dialed it up to 400 watts so that was the end of the conversation, but thanks to the wonder of the internet, you can continue here.
I then dialed it up to 400 watts so that was the end of the conversation, but thanks to the wonder of the internet, you can continue here.
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Pretty much anything weightweenie.
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i've always thought that unless you're winning races, NONE of really NEED anything more than a decent steel or alu frame with 105/veloce components. that said, ignore that grump and kill it on your cervelo. cycling is anything but need...
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Originally Posted by slvoid
Pretty much anything weightweenie.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
Yeah, items like Zero Gravity brakes .
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Originally Posted by slvoid
I told you, they made me an offer I couldn't refuse!
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
I'm just teasing. If I had the coin my RS would have them. Unfortunately I don't have money to blow on something that doesn't perform any better than what I have.
The steel version is only 30 some grams more and $100 bucks less
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I have a friend on some club rides who enjoys his endless chatter about his latest bike and the parts on it. I smile and when it gets to be too much I drift away and he latches onto someone else. If I wanted serious performance I would go to my long time friend Steve Delaire at www.rotatorrecumbents.com and get one of his machines.
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Oh for crissake shut the F up. I NEED the Zipps, the Ti Speedplays, the lighter seat, the tubular tires.
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Originally Posted by domestique
The steel version is only 30 some grams more and $100 bucks less
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Originally Posted by domestique
The steel version is only 30 some grams more and $100 bucks less
My gold chain (KMC x-10 sl) might fall in this category though. $75 or a bit more for a chain is silly, but it sure looks blingy. So might my Ti skewers
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Originally Posted by ryanspeer
Ceramic bearings would be my first vote.
We have found that using ceramic ball bearings can provide speed increases of up to 4%, or a forty meters distance gained over every kilometer.
IF that's true (I know, it's hard to trust the source here), it's definitely not the worst. I would say something like an ultra-light carbon saddle would give you less of a benefit. Worse yet, it might actually slow you down if it doesn't agree with your taint.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
but there's no improvement in performance.
My gold chain (KMC x-10 sl) might fall in this category though. $75 or a bit more for a chain is silly, but it sure looks blingy. So might my Ti skewers
My gold chain (KMC x-10 sl) might fall in this category though. $75 or a bit more for a chain is silly, but it sure looks blingy. So might my Ti skewers
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Originally Posted by DXchulo
Ti skewers? From the looks of things that chain set you back so far that you couldn't even afford a derailleur cable!
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
I dare say ultra pricey, ultra light carbon bottle cages.
$20,000 to save 3g? no thanks
$20,000 to save 3g? no thanks
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
*snip*
My gold chain (KMC x-10 sl) might fall in this category though. $75 or a bit more for a chain is silly, but it sure looks blingy. *snip*
My gold chain (KMC x-10 sl) might fall in this category though. $75 or a bit more for a chain is silly, but it sure looks blingy. *snip*
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This is why I ride naked. Saves a ton of money. Althought the Chamois Cream sometimes spooks other cyclists when applied directly to the saddle.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
I dare say ultra pricey, ultra light carbon bottle cages.
$20,000 to save 3g? no thanks
$20,000 to save 3g? no thanks
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Anything over an entry level bike is poor performance to price. If you take your average speed and divide by cost, I'd bet the most miles per hour per dollar spent comes from the cheapest bike you can find.
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Oh, believe me, I want a nice bike. But if you're asking for a ratio of performance to price, I'd have to argue that that would be on the opposite end of the spectrum.
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