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Old 04-22-07, 09:48 AM
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First group ride....impressions

I just finished a 80km shop group ride. My impressions of myself...I need to work on climbing alot. I can keep up with the lead pack on slight hills and flats, but got droped like a hot potato on the steeper climbs.

I guess I over extended myself on the first leg which is all up hill. Then died on the turn around. The shop guys were very encouraging and gave me a few pushes over the longer hills.

My biggest problem is my saddle, the SLR. I lost feeling in the nether regions after about 30kms and had trouble with sitting for long periods. I am looking at getting a Specialized Toupe as soon as possible to help ease this pain.

At least I can still walk around normally after the ride. My first road bike ride ended with me crawling in the front door of my house.
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You need to watch how the other riders are managing their energy. On a long ride, most riders are taking it easy on the flats (chatting with each other, watching for traffic etc.), but then pushing themselves on the climbs. If you need to work to keep up on the flats, then you know what is going to happen to you in the hills. The easiest way to improve your climbing is to add long climbs to most of your rides.
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Originally Posted by johnny99
On a long ride, most riders are taking it easy on the flats (chatting with each other, watching for traffic etc.), but then pushing themselves on the climbs.
This is true. Here's a short video clip I shot yesterday of a weekly group ride which I frequently join in on. These guys are a bit too fast for me as I usually drop out about 3/4 of the way into the ride.


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Thanks for the advice. I definitely need to do hill repeats to condition my legs to the stress. I wasn't really pushing it on the flats, just my usual pace.
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Dang! That's a huge group!
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You didn't say how much you have been riding prior to this group ride. If you haven't done much, be careful about doing too much, too soon. Otherwise, group riding is a lot more fun than riding by yourself.
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seriously... that's a not a group, that is a peloton going on there... DAMN!
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When considering one of our typical group rides, we get about EIGHT guys if we have a solid weekend turnout. Holy cow!

As far as your energy-management is concerned...you definitely need to intermix hillwork on the alternate days when the group isn't riding together. Doing squats at the gym with a bar allowing up to fifty repetitions is also a good technique to build explosive leg power and also work the heart and lungs. Embrace the burn and learn to love the pain because it is making you stronger. When you're out with the group, use a heartrate monitor to ensure you're not spiking your pulse too high or you will never recover for the balance of the ride. That group is large enough that you should never have to pull at the front if you don't want to be up there.

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wow on the group,

I think I see that many people in a month of commuting.
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wow on the group,

I think I see that many people in a month of commuting.
That is a very large group ride; could almost be a crit if they rode closer. In my area a group ride consists of older folks on 80's steelies and fat dudes who are spread out on by 2 miles.

Yeah, Specialized seats are great. The Body Geometry really does relieve pressure on the main contact points. Unless you ride an aggressive geometry I'd stay away from the toupe and look at the alias or avatar instead, IMHO.
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What group ride cc3chan? Da Donut?
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On the saddle, try dropping the nose a notch or two.
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Originally Posted by johnny99
The easiest way to improve your climbing is to add long climbs to most of your rides.
Losing weight is a highly effective way to improve your climbing ability, too. (It's simple and doesn't require physical effort, but it's not at all easy.)
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Originally Posted by wrote4luck
Dang! That's a huge group!
Here in NYC a group that size would need a permit else they'd all be carted off to jail.
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Originally Posted by EGreen
Here in NYC a group that size would need a permit else they'd all be carted off to jail.
No kidding. As far as I know, this particular ride has been going strong every week since the 70's. There are other weekly rides in other SoCal communities just as large and established. But the local law enforcements haven't been too happy with the size of this group though, usually even larger during the summer months.
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Originally Posted by cc3chan
I just finished a 80km shop group ride. My impressions of myself...I need to work on climbing alot. I can keep up with the lead pack on slight hills and flats, but got droped like a hot potato on the steeper climbs.

I guess I over extended myself on the first leg which is all up hill. Then died on the turn around. The shop guys were very encouraging and gave me a few pushes over the longer hills.

My biggest problem is my saddle, the SLR. I lost feeling in the nether regions after about 30kms and had trouble with sitting for long periods. I am looking at getting a Specialized Toupe as soon as possible to help ease this pain.

At least I can still walk around normally after the ride. My first road bike ride ended with me crawling in the front door of my house.
What shop are you riding with?

If its a 'no drop' ride take it easy on those hills.....people will wait....no point blowing up on a group ride.

As for saddle......my girlfriend made me get the toupe after reading about 'blood flow'......needless to say its one of the most comfortable saddles i've used. I was a bit hesitent about going on a 100km ride as my first test of it...but it was comfortable right out of the box...definitely worth the investment.....and a white one would look sharp with that R3.
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Originally Posted by simplyred
What group ride cc3chan? Da Donut?
avoid the donut....unless you enjoy being taken out by a bunch of weekend riders who get scared of to being close to other bikes.......i miss the good old days of the donut when you would just get yelled at.
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Originally Posted by pcates
avoid the donut....unless you enjoy being taken out by a bunch of weekend riders who get scared of to being close to other bikes.......i miss the good old days of the donut when you would just get yelled at.
Hmm, I got yelled at yesterday on the Donut ride for not pulling through properly.
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Originally Posted by cc3chan
My biggest problem is my saddle, the SLR. I lost feeling in the nether regions after about 30kms and had trouble with sitting for long periods. I am looking at getting a Specialized Toupe as soon as possible to help ease this pain.
I can't tell from your post, but if you don't ride this far regularly, hold off on switching saddles for a bit. You'll find a few more long rides will bring some endurance down there. Also, if you haven't already, use a carpenter's level to adjust your saddle to a good starting point. Seriously.
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Originally Posted by Phantoj
Losing weight is a highly effective way to improve your climbing ability, too. (It's simple and doesn't require physical effort, but it's not at all easy.)
Loosing weight would be very helpful and would be best for myself BUT not knowing the op current weight, that advises may not be the healthiest. Best thing to do is like johnny99 wrote and to add more hills to his current ride.
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Originally Posted by roadfix
No kidding. As far as I know, this particular ride has been going strong every week since the 70's. There are other weekly rides in other SoCal communities just as large and established. But the local law enforcements haven't been too happy with the size of this group though, usually even larger during the summer months.
We gots the Como ride going on Sundays that are that big.

Is it a hilly ride over there in L.A.? Up in the mountains or stay in the valley?
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My goodness that is a *monstrous* group.

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Originally Posted by astrodaimler
We gots the Como ride going on Sundays that are that big.

Is it a hilly ride over there in L.A.? Up in the mountains or stay in the valley?

It is a relatively flat ride, mostly through the San Gabriel Valley and northward. If it was a hilly ride into the canyons, this group, due to the many different levels of riders participating, I'll be one of the first ones to drop and the riders will be strung out for miles otherwise...
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Originally Posted by roadfix
It is a relatively flat ride, mostly through the San Gabriel Valley and northward. If it was a hilly ride into the canyons, this group, due to the many different levels of riders participating, I'll be one of the first ones to drop and the riders will be strung out for miles otherwise...
Great info. You got more information? Which club? Word of mouth? Who knows, maybe one of these days or weekend, I'll sit in. Bear Ride coming soon, I think there will be a thread on the local forum. I'll let you know what I'm riding and wearing so people can recognize me.
As for getting dropped, stay in front for as long as you can. As you get dropped, there will always be someone else to sit on a wheel until of course, you go all the way to the last guy.
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