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since most of you seem to ride with dog treats and raw beef in your shorts I thought I'd post this. my co worker bought something like this for training and to repel dogs that get too "agressive" at the dog park. he said it works great so I was thinking that if you tape this to your handle bars (not pretty but affective) it would be ready for you if you get chased.
https://www.amazon.com/Dog-Dazer-II-2...7455651&sr=8-1
https://www.amazon.com/Dog-Dazer-II-2...7455651&sr=8-1
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Originally Posted by rha600
since most of you seem to ride with dog treats and raw beef in your shorts.....
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Those high frequency dog repellants aren't always effective, especially if the dog is already riled up. It's basically a noisemaker, and like all noisemakers, it may scare some dogs and not others. You stand a much better chance if you use some kind of spray like "HALT!"
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sure, but the spray might not be as easy to use. most of these dogs are not "attacking". dogs like to chase moving things. that's their job in life. the problem is that they are not smart enough to know when to stop and not to get in your way. the noisemaker COULD stop the dog before it even gets to you where as the spray can probably only reach 5 or 10 feet at the most so by that time you're trying to stop/ride/aim/spray/panic...
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We got charged today on our ride by a couple of dogs. I slowed down, unclipped and waited. Fortunately they chased the people ahead of me
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a simple referee's whistle blasted a few times does the tirck just as well as anything cheap and easy to carry on a lanyard around your neck...
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Originally Posted by Sprocket Man
Those high frequency dog repellants aren't always effective, especially if the dog is already riled up. It's basically a noisemaker, and like all noisemakers, it may scare some dogs and not others. You stand a much better chance if you use some kind of spray like "HALT!"
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Originally Posted by JayC
We got charged today on our ride by a couple of dogs. I slowed down, unclipped and waited. Fortunately they chased the people ahead of me
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I look to see if they're wagging their tails when they take off before I start reaching for the water bottle. Sometimes they just want to pee on your tires. Really !
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Originally Posted by rha600
my co workers dog likes to chase bikes. well actually it turns out he just wants to race them. he took off the other day and ripped theleash out of his hand to chase a guy on a bike. the dog was on the sidewalk and the bike in the road but when the guy stopped his bike the dog just ran right on by. haha. he got about 50 yards past the bike and stopped, turned around and I swear he had this look on his face that said "come on wimp, I can take you."
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Well spray can have some bad points, the worst being it sprays back at you because the wind is going in the wrong direction. Take it from someone who has many years of experience with gas this is not something that you want while riding. As far the blasters , sonic repellers etc I have yet to see one really work on a dog that really wants a piece of you. Is there a real simple solution no.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
+1 I know that my dog likes to attack anything that makes a funny electronic noise (squeeze-me plush toys, musical greeting cards, etc.) yet he hates water. I actually use my bike bottle when taking him outside and squirt him when he barks. It's so hard to tell what type of dog it is when it's coming at you at 20+ mph. It's like the dogs have different personalities or something!!!
You are right you can not always tell a dogs intentions, but a wagging tail is a pretty good sign. Of course a happy dog can still jump on you and try to lick your face, not a good thing if you are still clipped in.
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Originally Posted by Keith99
You are right you can not always tell a dogs intentions, but a wagging tail is a pretty good sign. Of course a happy dog can still jump on you and try to lick your face, not a good thing if you are still clipped in.
I did have an encounter with a dog on Monday. It was happily running out into the traffic lane so I decided to see if I could coax it home or read its tag. The dog wanted nothing to do with me and my funny head and 2 circular legs, so it growled at me and walked the other way. I have yet to be attacked by a dog aside from my former dogs nipping my heel trying to herd me back home (appropriately enough, they were a cattle herding breed)
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9 dogs out of 10 that chase me here in Alberta are Border Collies. I've come to dislike Border Collie owners for the fact that they let their dogs run free, and obviously do not give their dogs enough mental stimulation. It's like every other farm around here has a Border Collie who runs free, and who is bored.
I don't dislike the dogs, because I understand them. It's not their fault ... it is the fault of the owners. According to the Wikipedia article on Border Collies; "Border Collies can be motion-sensitive and may attempt to control the movements of family members, cats, squirrels, bicycles, cars, or anything else that moves if not given enough mental and physical stimulation." When they chase me, they are simply trying to herd me ... but being herded by one, two, or more Border Collies is a very disconcerting experience. They are extremely persistant dogs!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Collie
Rather than using some sort of spray or something on the dogs, I'd rather use it on the owners. Wouldn't that be fun ... to cycle up the driveway of the home where several pesky Border Collies live, to ring the bell, and then to spray the owner who answers the door!!
I don't dislike the dogs, because I understand them. It's not their fault ... it is the fault of the owners. According to the Wikipedia article on Border Collies; "Border Collies can be motion-sensitive and may attempt to control the movements of family members, cats, squirrels, bicycles, cars, or anything else that moves if not given enough mental and physical stimulation." When they chase me, they are simply trying to herd me ... but being herded by one, two, or more Border Collies is a very disconcerting experience. They are extremely persistant dogs!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Collie
Rather than using some sort of spray or something on the dogs, I'd rather use it on the owners. Wouldn't that be fun ... to cycle up the driveway of the home where several pesky Border Collies live, to ring the bell, and then to spray the owner who answers the door!!
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Stopping the bike and getting off to scold the dog is definitely the right answer. I've had to learn the hard way.
This season I've come into more contact with dogs in the road than the rest of my life combined by two fold. I think it's because I'm doing more rural riding and charting more unknown territory rather than doing familiar loops. Anyway, I've been bitten twice in 2007, the second one should've been prevented by getting off the bike, especially since I knew the dog to be fairly friendly and it probably bit me solely because I was a moving target, despite the fact I was moving slowly and trying to tell it to 'go home'.
Yesterday I had two huge dogs playfully run towards the road after me, so I immediately downshifted & unclipped & dismounted. I yelled at the first one to "go home" while pointing at his house, they both stopped. After yelling right at the first one about two more times to "go home", it looked back then looked at me and troddled away, the second one never quite made it into the road. I'm kinda proud of myself, because anything else I could have done would have been dangerous. I couldn't sprint because I was at the base of the main climb of the day, even these fat dogs wouldn't have gotten dropped.
Sure, I could carry pepper spray or ammonia or whatever, but it's really only necessary in extreme cases. Besides, I have a hard enough time remembering to put on my helmet, I don't need to be fumbling with dog repellent, which with my luck I'd have forgotten to bring the one time when I could really use it.
The moral of the story is that stopping the bike & getting off is the best solution, barring extreme circumstances. I know it's an absolute PITA, wasting several minutes needlessly because of negligent dog owners. I wish there was some way to put the dog owners on notice, but I'm not sure what can realistically be done. As it is, dealing with dogs in the road is an excercise in disaster management.
This season I've come into more contact with dogs in the road than the rest of my life combined by two fold. I think it's because I'm doing more rural riding and charting more unknown territory rather than doing familiar loops. Anyway, I've been bitten twice in 2007, the second one should've been prevented by getting off the bike, especially since I knew the dog to be fairly friendly and it probably bit me solely because I was a moving target, despite the fact I was moving slowly and trying to tell it to 'go home'.
Yesterday I had two huge dogs playfully run towards the road after me, so I immediately downshifted & unclipped & dismounted. I yelled at the first one to "go home" while pointing at his house, they both stopped. After yelling right at the first one about two more times to "go home", it looked back then looked at me and troddled away, the second one never quite made it into the road. I'm kinda proud of myself, because anything else I could have done would have been dangerous. I couldn't sprint because I was at the base of the main climb of the day, even these fat dogs wouldn't have gotten dropped.
Sure, I could carry pepper spray or ammonia or whatever, but it's really only necessary in extreme cases. Besides, I have a hard enough time remembering to put on my helmet, I don't need to be fumbling with dog repellent, which with my luck I'd have forgotten to bring the one time when I could really use it.
The moral of the story is that stopping the bike & getting off is the best solution, barring extreme circumstances. I know it's an absolute PITA, wasting several minutes needlessly because of negligent dog owners. I wish there was some way to put the dog owners on notice, but I'm not sure what can realistically be done. As it is, dealing with dogs in the road is an excercise in disaster management.
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Originally Posted by Machka
I've come to dislike Border Collie owners for the fact that they let their dogs run free, and obviously do not give their dogs enough mental stimulation.
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Originally Posted by Green Jager
Well spray can have some bad points, the worst being it sprays back at you because the wind is going in the wrong direction. Take it from someone who has many years of experience with gas this is not something that you want while riding.
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Originally Posted by slacker00
The moral of the story is that stopping the bike & getting off is the best solution, barring extreme circumstances.
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Here's a good review of different strategies for dealing with dogs.
The guy tested the ultrasonic "Dazer" unit and found it pretty lame.
He found the best results with full strength pepper spray (not that watered down "Halt" stuff). The full strength stuff can also come in handy in a confrontation with a two-legged varmint.
FWIW, I've used full strength pepper on dogs about 10 times (averaging once per year), and find that it works very well. It's fairly easy to deploy from the bike, and it causes the dogs to stop chasing almost instantly. Typically, they head for some tall grass to rub their muzzles, but they don't whimper or act like they're in any real pain.
Ammonia can cause eye damage...I like dogs too much to use that.
The guy tested the ultrasonic "Dazer" unit and found it pretty lame.
He found the best results with full strength pepper spray (not that watered down "Halt" stuff). The full strength stuff can also come in handy in a confrontation with a two-legged varmint.
FWIW, I've used full strength pepper on dogs about 10 times (averaging once per year), and find that it works very well. It's fairly easy to deploy from the bike, and it causes the dogs to stop chasing almost instantly. Typically, they head for some tall grass to rub their muzzles, but they don't whimper or act like they're in any real pain.
Ammonia can cause eye damage...I like dogs too much to use that.
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I have always wondered how effective punching a dog in the nose would be. Not that I have really wanted to do it, but just how effective it would be.
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Originally Posted by asherlighn
I have always wondered how effective punching a dog in the nose would be. Not that I have really wanted to do it, but just how effective it would be.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
Those are (arguably) the smartest breed on the planet. Do you have any idea what it would take to give them adequate mental stimulation?! If the owners have latched gates without a padlock or door handles instead of knobs, they might not even be intentionally letting the dogs out. I agree that they should make sure the dogs are kept from roaming free, though... and I love your idea of following the dog home and spraying the owner! I should try that some time.
But here's the thing that really gets me ... I've seen these dogs nearly hit by vehicles while they are intent on pursuing me. What are the owners thinking??? Do they want to get their dogs killed?? You'd think the owners would take some measures to keep their dogs from chasing things for the dog's own health and safety.
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Not sure if its legal for you in Canada, Machka, but I would highly recommend you carry some pepper spray. A small canister fits easily in a jersey pocket, is quick to deploy when necessary, and works great to stop dogs and (if necessary) their owners.
And spraying a dog is a good way to "train" it to not chase cyclists. Most dogs won't come back for a second nose full of pepper.
Not sure if its legal for you in Canada, Machka, but I would highly recommend you carry some pepper spray. A small canister fits easily in a jersey pocket, is quick to deploy when necessary, and works great to stop dogs and (if necessary) their owners.
And spraying a dog is a good way to "train" it to not chase cyclists. Most dogs won't come back for a second nose full of pepper.
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