10 speed. Where do we go from here?
05-20-07, 11:41 AM
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10 speed. Where do we go from here?
I guess that before 10spd was around people found it difficult to imagine?
And now we have 10spd on the lowest Campag groupset will we have 11spd available anywhere soon or is this plain silly?
And now we have 10spd on the lowest Campag groupset will we have 11spd available anywhere soon or is this plain silly?
05-20-07, 11:49 AM
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Man....I'm waaaaay behind. I'm still on Record 8-speed....and these components seem to last forever....
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10 speed cranksets perhaps? 
Actually I think the "cassette wars" will calm down in favor of electric shifting taking the spotlight for a while again. (Anyone remember the Mavic Zap system?)
Actually I think the "cassette wars" will calm down in favor of electric shifting taking the spotlight for a while again. (Anyone remember the Mavic Zap system?)
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Originally Posted by HigherGround
10 speed cranksets perhaps? Actually I think the "cassette wars" will calm down in favor of electric shifting taking the spotlight for a while again. (Anyone remember the Mavic Zap system?)
Actually I think the "cassette wars" will calm down in favor of electric shifting taking the spotlight for a while again. (Anyone remember the Mavic Zap system?)Hmmm
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I put most of my miles on a 9 speed bike but break out my 10 speed "good" bike on occasion. 
Both bikes have the same 12-25 cluster range and I'm not a racer these days. When riding the 10 speed bike I find it slightly annoying to have to shift so much. I do a lot of hill climbing but have no interest in expanding the cluster range. In my view, adding any more gears to the back is not adding any value. Have to say though, both bikes are DuraAce and the 10 speed version does shift quite a bit nicer so it's all good. Just don't need any more gears in back. Also, 10 speed chains seem to wear faster and cost a lot more money so again, no real value in my world.
Both bikes have the same 12-25 cluster range and I'm not a racer these days. When riding the 10 speed bike I find it slightly annoying to have to shift so much. I do a lot of hill climbing but have no interest in expanding the cluster range. In my view, adding any more gears to the back is not adding any value. Have to say though, both bikes are DuraAce and the 10 speed version does shift quite a bit nicer so it's all good. Just don't need any more gears in back. Also, 10 speed chains seem to wear faster and cost a lot more money so again, no real value in my world.
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Mavic Zap, that stuff was crazy. I've only seen it once in action, but seemed to work pretty well. I'd guess electronic shifting will be more prevalent in coming years, given its continued appearance on pro's bikes, and their apparent apprectiation of its quick shifting and reliability. Now if I just didn't have to haul around a big battery....
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I can't remember the name of it but there is a new gradual gearing system. Too heavy at the moment for bike hubs but soon some charlie will find a way to fit them to racing bikes and there will be no more clunking chain from one cog to another.
Anyone know the name of this system??........... Damn my swiss chees brain.
Anyone know the name of this system??........... Damn my swiss chees brain.
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Originally Posted by mezza
I can't remember the name of it but there is a new gradual gearing system. Too heavy at the moment for bike hubs but soon some charlie will find a way to fit them to racing bikes and there will be no more clunking chain from one cog to another.
Anyone know the name of this system??........... Damn my swiss chees brain.
Anyone know the name of this system??........... Damn my swiss chees brain.
Not sure how well it'd work on a bike though, as its all about revs.
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CVT is the future. It'll be schweet.
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Originally Posted by v1k1ng1001
how come my shimano fishing reel doesn't have 10 speeds?
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Originally Posted by v1k1ng1001
how come my shimano fishing reel doesn't have 10 speeds?
My Shimano-7000 Masterbait Reel has 11 speeds.
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Originally Posted by Pman
Then we may see wireless electronic shifting to eliminate the cables...
05-20-07, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by canthidefromme
i'd hate to see what those stray signals that make my wireless computer say i'm going 96 mph would do to my derailleur
05-26-07, 03:44 AM
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I think the next logical step would be internal hub gears. They just need to become lighter and a bit more efficient to beat the current deraler systems. Check out these.
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05-27-07, 01:53 PM
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Yes, but this one goes to 11.
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I think the next system will be a single control with broad enough range for climbing moderate hills. The "masses" would really appreciate a simpler system. Like a 10 speed rear cassette with enough range to get a lower gear. Believe it or not, a lot of people who need fairly low gearing for hilly recreational riding never "get" the logic of dual-derailleur systems and don't ride because of that.
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Who knows ? .... 10 IS an even number. 11 seems goofy, then again when bikes went from 5 to 6, that seened goofy to me at the time,an even half dozen. Technically, I don't see how they can possibly stuff more cogs back there. As is IS, they've needed to thin-out dimensions. Only time will tell if the 10 speed rears have compromised long-term durability. My next build will have 9 speed, I have a ten too. 9, with down-tube shifters is in order next though.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
CVT is the future. It'll be schweet.
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CVT is pretty cool. I drive a Prius.
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Originally Posted by Camilo
I think the next system will be a single control with broad enough range for climbing moderate hills. The "masses" would really appreciate a simpler system. Like a 10 speed rear cassette with enough range to get a lower gear. Believe it or not, a lot of people who need fairly low gearing for hilly recreational riding never "get" the logic of dual-derailleur systems and don't ride because of that.
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Originally Posted by 7rider
Anyone here driving a car with CVT? How is it? I'd love to try out a Tesla.
If you're not getting a manual, get a semi-auto, it's fun; like brifters are.