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    Spinergy: Xaero Lites vs. Stealth PBO... opinions, experiences, rumors

    Time for a new training set.

    I can get the Xaero Lites for 350 shipped. The Stealth PBO's for 550 shipped. Both new in da box.

    Anyone ridden either? Anyone have both? Hell, anyone have a friend with one or the other, or even heard anything?

    Any and all thoughts appreciated.

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    whats your source on the stealths?
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    Nothing? Nobody? C'mon...
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    I have the Stealth PBO's. They're my first set of aero wheels, so not really sure what to tell you other than that they're great for taking pictures with. Well, that and I'm happy with them so far, but with no point of reference.
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    Obligatory pic of the wheels courtesy of merider1... just ignore my strange looking cycling attire.

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    white spokes are very hot!

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    Hey JSchen,

    do you you have any more pictures of the wheelset? I'd love to see the profile. I thought the stickers are pretty nice not sure why you remove them. Thanks.

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    I'm not a fan of stickers. EVERY sticker on my bike that I could readily remove has been removed. From the CSC stickers on the frame to the quality control sticker on the underside of the saddle. There's nothing wrong with the stickers, but I prefer a plainer look. Anyway, here's a side view before it was destickered (see attachment) and a simulation of the appearance after (courtesy of 1955, right below the text). The bike looks a bit distorted since the pic was taken with a 24mm (35mm equivalent) lens really close up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jschen
    Obligatory pic of the wheels courtesy of merider1... just ignore my strange looking cycling attire.

    What ride is that? Is that the Thursday Night 25 near Long Beach?

    Sweet looking rig, by the way... I almost forgive you for the ban

    So how do the wheels spin up? I'm almost sold on the Stealth PBO's, but the thing I'm concerned about is that these would be daily trainers- are they hell in climbs?

    At 1695g they're far from light, but sometimes if a heavier wheel spins up quick, they don't feel so bad in the hills...

    Also, how have you found the durability as a daily driver?

    I'm assuming they hold speed well, make a fast pack that much easier... am I right?
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    That was a BikeForums ride a few weekends ago that about 40 people showed up for.

    Well, for spinning up, few clinchers will beat my Elan Aeros. They climb fine--I've done rides with up to 8000 feet of climbing with them--but again, for big climbing rides, I'd generally pick the absurdly light Elan Aeros. I haven't used them enough to comment on durability--and at 140 pounds and low power output, you're asking the wrong person anyway--but you might want to send a PM to Chucklehead since he's the one who had me sold on these wheels. He uses them as his primary wheelset.

    I'm too slow to comment on fast packs, but based on some big downhill descents, I can state with certainty that these are more aero than my other wheelsets (not that that should come as any surprise).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jschen
    That was a BikeForums ride a few weekends ago that about 40 people showed up for.

    Well, for spinning up, few clinchers will beat my Elan Aeros. They climb fine--I've done rides with up to 8000 feet of climbing with them--but again, for big climbing rides, I'd generally pick the absurdly light Elan Aeros. I haven't used them enough to comment on durability--and at 140 pounds and low power output, you're asking the wrong person anyway--but you might want to send a PM to Chucklehead since he's the one who had me sold on these wheels. He uses them as his primary wheelset.

    I'm too slow to comment on fast packs, but based on some big downhill descents, I can state with certainty that these are more aero than my other wheelsets (not that that should come as any surprise).
    Thanks! And no hard feelings... I guess I had it coming the way I went after that dude...
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    For some perspective on climbing, one pound works out to about 0.6-0.7% change in power/weight ratio for a 140 pound skinny dude riding a light bike and carrying minimal gear. Not exactly a huge difference. That's about a minute for a modest speed climber like me on a big climb like Palomar or Baldy. A few seconds of which one gains back because of aero. A few seconds of which one loses again because the hubs seem to be not quite as freely rolling as the Rolf hubs. So yeah... a minute. Less if you're faster than me. They're not going to kill you on a climb.
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    someone say stealth PBO??

    love 'em. bomb-proof, fast, not that light, but oh well. they're still great. they are, in fact, my primary wheels, and they do fine on climbs. this is a wheelset that likes momentum, so it definitely helps to have a bit of power to carry them over the climbs.
    i've noticed that they are at a serious disadvantage on the really steep stuff compared to my topolinos(most wheels are), but in most situations, they're great. wouldn't hesitate to buy another set.
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    Pulled dat trigga on the Stealth PBO's. Went with white spokes. I'll post pics when I get them, hopefully tomorrow. Thanks for the advice, everybody...
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