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Old 01-26-17, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sh00k
I think so too but I'm too cheap to get one

I have tried all different setups on the stem/handle bar angle/seat and i simply cannot tune in the fit... i think it's more because of the geometry. This is my first real road bike and i have been riding upright hybrid bikes for years. what also doesnt help is super tense hamstrings that limit my ability to stretch over. besides, the stretching over the frame and putting all the weight on my arms causes other issues.... this is the only setup that made it comfortable for me. i installed a bontrager elite 25 degree stem (75mm long) and angled the bars up....

any suggestions other than going to get a bike fit? is it just the angle of the handle bars that looks off?
Did you buy the bike from a bike shop? If so, I would suggest you go back in and speak to them. I would hope they would be willing to help you figure out the fit, especially once they see the current setup. It is possible that bike will never fit properly, and in that case, hopefully they will work with you in finding one in the shop that does.

Being your first road bike, I think it's absolutely worth paying your bike shop for an hour fit. The fitter in the shop should charge by the hour and an hour is all you'll need if money is tight.
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Originally Posted by sh00k
I think so too but I'm too cheap to get one

I have tried all different setups on the stem/handle bar angle/seat and i simply cannot tune in the fit... i think it's more because of the geometry. This is my first real road bike and i have been riding upright hybrid bikes for years. what also doesnt help is super tense hamstrings that limit my ability to stretch over. besides, the stretching over the frame and putting all the weight on my arms causes other issues.... this is the only setup that made it comfortable for me. i installed a bontrager elite 25 degree stem (75mm long) and angled the bars up....

any suggestions other than going to get a bike fit? is it just the angle of the handle bars that looks off?

edit -- for reference, this is how my hybrid is setup. it fits like a glove and i can ride 50 miles on it no problem.
You need to stop thinking about how you sit on your hybrid.
The bike is not a hybrid and so should not be set up like one.
It is like me trying to set up my road bike like my MTB.
You should also NOT be putting pressure on your arms either. That makes me think that you are sitting too close to your bars which would likely be an outcome of your stem and bar setup.
You need to flip that stem back over and roll the bars forward so that the bar ends are pointing at your back brake and so that there is a nice flat transition from your bar tops out onto your brake levers.
Then use this method to get you set up:

Get pedal in correct position: BEHIND ball of foot. Often this is cleats slammed all the way back.
Get saddle height in correct position: while pedalling in a slightly bigger gear than needed pedal up a hill. The pedal stroke needs to feel circular rather than up and down and there should be no "snapping"/sudden acceleration of the knee. Keep lowering it until it feels awkward then raise again until it starts snapping.
Get saddle setback right: you should not feel like you are using your quads or hamstrings more than the other.
If you feel your hamstrings then move the saddle forward. If you feel your quads then move the saddle back.

When reaching for the bars you should not feel pressure through your back or neck.
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only one bike, which is all i need, a lynskey Viale, does everything i need a bike to do
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Old 01-27-17, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sumgy
You need to stop thinking about how you sit on your hybrid.
The bike is not a hybrid and so should not be set up like one.
It is like me trying to set up my road bike like my MTB.
You should also NOT be putting pressure on your arms either. That makes me think that you are sitting too close to your bars which would likely be an outcome of your stem and bar setup.
You need to flip that stem back over and roll the bars forward so that the bar ends are pointing at your back brake and so that there is a nice flat transition from your bar tops out onto your brake levers.
Then use this method to get you set up:

Get pedal in correct position: BEHIND ball of foot. Often this is cleats slammed all the way back.
Get saddle height in correct position: while pedalling in a slightly bigger gear than needed pedal up a hill. The pedal stroke needs to feel circular rather than up and down and there should be no "snapping"/sudden acceleration of the knee. Keep lowering it until it feels awkward then raise again until it starts snapping.
Get saddle setback right: you should not feel like you are using your quads or hamstrings more than the other.
If you feel your hamstrings then move the saddle forward. If you feel your quads then move the saddle back.

When reaching for the bars you should not feel pressure through your back or neck.
Good point re: not making my road bike fit like my hybrid. And thank you for the details on how to get a good fit. When the weather clears up, I'm going to try this by a hill on my usual bike route.

Enjoy your weekend!
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Originally Posted by sbxx1985
I think a bike fit would help.
My eyes this handlebar position is weird
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Originally Posted by sh00k
Good point re: not making my road bike fit like my hybrid
Think of it like trying to sit the same way in a recliner and a dining room chair; it just doesn't work and is going to be uncomfortable. Both have a correct position and they're not the same.

Good luck dialing in your fit on the road bike.. It can take some time and trial-and-error. Once you're dialed in, though, it can be easily as comfortable as your hybrid position -- more-so because you have more options for hand positions to move between as you ride.
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Originally Posted by THIRDY
It's a great bike. It is a single chainring setup but I mostly ride flat anyway and it's more than enough on those occasional uphills if there's even any. I was more into endurance biking but I have no problem transitioning into a sprint bike. I just needed to try out a different frame geometry and I am liking it.
I picked up the 2X version last month and I love it. Handling and position are superb.
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Love that cannondale with the pink accents and the mirrored logo. Sweet.

Here's mine. Red titanium skewers on the way and I'm looking for more ways to add more red anodized bits. Hey, I grew up on mountain bikes in the 90s. Everything was anodized!

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So many bikes with their bars pointing up in the air.
I hope people are not paying good money to have their bikes set up like that.
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That thing is nice!
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Cannondale with that classic design every time
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Got a FELT F1/F1 2010 with some Dura-ace components & spinergy wheels..



I have since swapped the stem but am after style hints! I've always been anti white contact points, remove and go stealth or leave the green on?

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Originally Posted by rigidan
Got a FELT F1/F1 2010 with some Dura-ace components & spinergy wheels..



I have since swapped the stem but am after style hints! I've always been anti white contact points, remove and go stealth or leave the green on?
I think with the green looks really nice...the way it is gives a nice contrast on the bike.
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