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Road Cycling ďIt is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.Ē -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 09-20-11, 08:53 AM   #18951
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You wrote flip it, not flip the stem. I graduated from Harvard in 1991 and finished my MBA at MIT in 1994, so I am fairly well educated.

I have faith in hard work, so keep flipping those burgers, save your pennies and maybe some day you can afford the pedals I have on this bike....................
So you're an *******?
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Old 09-20-11, 08:56 AM   #18952
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So you're an *******?
Oh, is this like hang man, I guess an S.

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Old 09-20-11, 08:58 AM   #18953
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Old 09-20-11, 09:01 AM   #18954
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I figured that one out all on my own and I didn't even need to go to Harvard or MIT.
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Old 09-20-11, 09:02 AM   #18955
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I couldn't agree more, I am an arrogant A******, who has no patience for A*******s who post negative comments about other people's bikes but do not post there own bikes.
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Old 09-20-11, 09:03 AM   #18956
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I couldn't agree more, I am an arrogant A******, who has no patience for A*******s who post negative comments about other people's bikes but do not post there own bikes.
It's "their own bikes". Did they not require you to write at Sloan?
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Old 09-20-11, 09:04 AM   #18957
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I couldn't agree more, I am an arrogant A******, who has no patience for A*******s who post negative comments about other people's bikes but do not post there own bikes.
Your bike looks really stupid with the stem up.

Also, here's my bike
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Your bike looks really stupid with the stem up.

Also, here's my bike
Nice Bike! I had a serious medical situation, requires me to use a specific type of saddle and inhibits my flexibility. One of the main reasons I bought he 695 was to be able to adjust the stem.

I am a tech geek, spelling was and is not high on the priority list.

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Old 09-20-11, 09:34 AM   #18959
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I had a serious medical situation, requires me to use a specific type of saddle and inhibits my flexibility. One of the main reasons I bought he 695 was to be able to adjust the stem.
Much better answer.
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Old 09-20-11, 10:00 AM   #18960
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1989 Panasonic DX 2000 upgraded with a mix of new Tiagra, vintage 105 and Dura Ace.

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love that panasonic! so hard to find a team bike
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Old 09-20-11, 10:11 AM   #18961
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Nice Bike! I had a serious medical situation, requires me to use a specific type of saddle and inhibits my flexibility. One of the main reasons I bought he 695 was to be able to adjust the stem.

I am a tech geek, spelling was and is not high on the priority list.
ďFlip itĒ is a standard comment when it comes to an upward stem, specially in the case of the appearance of such a nice bike like yours. As a newcomer, your counter comments were understandable. Your bike's look (no pun intended) has nothing to do with your attributes and accomplishments no matter how impressive they are. Your attitude, on the other hand, does. #18976 should have come about a few posts before.
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Old 09-20-11, 10:58 AM   #18962
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“Flip it” is a standard comment when it comes to an upward stem, specially in the case of the appearance of such a nice bike like yours. As a newcomer, your counter comments were understandable. Your bike's look (no pun intended) has nothing to do with your attributes and accomplishments no matter how impressive they are. Your attitude, on the other hand, does. #18976 should have come about a few posts before.
English is my third language I do not understand nuances like "flip it" too well. Your post should have read "Nice bike maybe you should lower your stem". not "flip it, such atrocity"

If you knew anything about the bike you would know that the stem can be raised and lowered, it cannot be flipped..............

I still have not seen a picture of what you ride
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Old 09-20-11, 11:06 AM   #18963
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Pedal Force CG2

Iím a self-admitted Gear Geek who is guilty of overanalyzing his cycling equipment. Iím also cheap and independent, never too concerned with what the trends are today. I do like contemporary cycling technology and understand that todayís gear offers a lot of performance. Iíll visit a retail cycling showroom and find almost nothing for me. Iím not super-tall at 6í, but due to a lanky build and a preference for a more stretched-out ďFrench-fit,Ē I never seem find a bike that meets my requirements in stock.

Most of my riding is longer distance fitness riding. I ride solo about 50% of the time. My fitness level has progressed to the point that I can ride in the faster groups with younger riders, some of whom race. I donít dominate the pull, but I can hang-on. I have a need for speed and want to improve my hill climbing skills. So Iíve been looking at sourcing the items needed for a complete road-bike that would fit this kind of riding better than my do-it-all CX bike.

The availability of an advanced, second generation, road bike frame from Pedal Force caught my interest. The CG2 frame is available with a virtual top-tube size of 590mm with a head-tube length of 210mm. I also wanted a very stiff head-tube, down-tube and chain-stay design. The asymmetrical head-tube with a 1 1/8 upper headset bearing and a 1 ľ lower headset bearing would improve stiffness compared to a symmetrical 1 1/8 headset head-tube. The fork was all carbon fiber, including the steering tube. The frame featured internal cabling for the derailleurs and rear brake. A BB30 bottom bracket shell is included.
















Test results: Fit, Ride, handling and acceleration.

Iíve had the bike out for multiple rides but only have about 100 miles on it so far. Todayís ride was cut short by rain, it will be a while before this bike gets dirty from damp roads. I have a CX bike for rain duty anyway.

Even though it is a little difficult to remain perfectly objective during the honeymoon period with a new bike, some impressions are forming.

First impression is that this bike is different from other bikes I have owned. It fits more like a sports bike than my prior road bikes. The taller head-tube and the size 60cm seat-tube keeps the handlebar and saddle a moderate distance from the top tube. My prior road bikes had that short-wheelbase feel and always needed a well extended seat-post and an angled stem with a few spacers to fit well. I always felt that distance between me and the frame and never got adjusted to that kind of fit. I feel perfectly balanced on the new bike and I like the sports bike fit far more than the road-race fit. The second impression is that the bike feels a little unexciting at lower speeds but becomes much more veracious as speed and effort increases. My prior bikes felt very good at moderate speeds and were good partners on century rides, but were a little unsupportive of faster, high-effort cycling. The CG2 is going to be my fast fitness bike for group rides and will be asked to help me stay below 6 hours while completing century rides. I continue to think that it will do very well in that role.

Letís talk about handling, ride and acceleration. It will be a while before I can comment on climbing and descending, Iíll have to write a post-script after some hill work with the bike.

Like the fit, he handling is more sports bike than road-race bike. There is nothing on the geometry sheet to indicate relaxed handling, but that is my impression at this point. It might be the longer wheelbase that comes with a size 60cm frame, or the geometry of the fork, but the bike has on-rails stability at all speeds. At speeds below 15 mph it doesnít feel very lively. It doesnít do anything bad at lower speeds or in tight spaces. However this is not a criterium racer or an agile city streets bike. It will make any turn at any reasonable speed, but it would rather go straight and fast and is less responsive feeling in tighter spaces and lower speeds than my CX bike or prior road bikes.

The ride quality is what I expected, firm but never jarring. One of the advantages of a bike that fits well and has comfortable contact points (seat, handlebar and shoes) is that a firmer ride can be comfortable. It also helps to have large enough tires at moderate air pressure. Finally, the wheel-set can improve the ride, my 32 spoke Velocity A23 wheel-set is comfort oriented and the ride benefits from a 23mm wide rim. Iím using 700x23 front and 700x25 rear tires at 100 and 110 psi. The tires are Continental Gatorskins which are stiffer than some tires in this size.

The frame has a firmer ride quality than my steel and prior titanium bikes. Steel bikes do feel supple and springy, in a way that can be good, but is also unwanted at times. The Titanium bike feels very supple and extra plush, but a bigger rider on a large frame will feel some unwanted flex too. The CG2 feels firmer than steel or titanium, with no unwanted flex. There is filtered road feel that is busier than steel or titanium, but this does not cause me any discomfort. The bike felt supple enough on the badly cratered and insufficiently repaired streets that are everywhere in my area. Sharper surface features, like frost heaves or broken concrete are felt, but the worst of it is filtered. Stiff riding, but filtered, is the best way for me to summarize the ride quality.

I will add that the sounds coming off the frame are more prominent than with my prior bikes. The sounds are all normal, including gear shifts and some rattling from the chain & cables. No groaning or creaking. The BB30 shell and adapter are silent, this was a worry.

Acceleration has been thrilling. Part of this is without-a-doubt a placebo effect, new bikes are great for motivation. However, part of my improved ability to accelerate and hold speed is the frame. Yesterday I rode with my speed oriented riding friend. He is a 25 year old Ironman participant on a Look TT bike. He never drops below 19 mph on our pancake flat route and can hold 23 mph for hours without drafting. I normally stay on his wheel and hang on for dear life. He was very complimentary of the improvements. He said my cadence looked smoother, faster and that my power output was more efficient. At one point he said ďNow we are side by side holding a conversation at 20 mph, normally we you would be behind meÖĒ

The bike does provide a better response to my effort. I used to hold a narrow cadence range from 90 to 100 rpm, shift often and lose and gain speed with any change in slope. Now I find myself holding speed, shifting less and feeling better power output at higher or lower cadence.

Iím beginning to wonder if Iíll ever go back to steel or titanium.

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Old 09-21-11, 06:09 PM   #18965
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Just bought my first road bike. Not the best pic but here she is. Trek 1.5.
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Old 09-21-11, 07:39 PM   #18966
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Am I going nuts...or is that a Suntour Superbe Pro crank????

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Old 09-21-11, 08:56 PM   #18967
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Unless you are running over 5" of saddle to bar drop, you should just shoot yourself now. My bikes below:







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Old 09-21-11, 09:21 PM   #18968
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still working on my fit, but its an awesome bike
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Am I going nuts...or is that a Suntour Superbe Pro crank????
You are going nuts. It's a Suntour Cyclone crank.
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theyre indeed cyclones. id love a third set if anyones found some!
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short ones, specifically.
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Old 09-22-11, 06:03 AM   #18972
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Details on that little bike stand??
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i forgot where i got mine, but its the same as http://www.ebikestop.com/dimension_u...and-DS0012.php . its the dollar for dollar champ, and once i get the bottom bracket and headset in with a pro stand and pro tools, this can handle everything else.
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Updated Photos

know these are crappy photos, took them with my iPhone at night.

2011 695 SR, Premium white, black and gold
SRAM Red
Ciamillo Zero G Brakes, Zipp cork brake pads
MadFiber Wheels
Most Lionaire Aero Handle Bars
Look Carbon Ti pedals
S works Carbon / Titanium saddle (changed for this picture to appease the saddle critics)
weight with pedals 13.88lbs

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