Yoshi

You sure know a lot about vegetarians for someone who has apparently never met one.

lvleph

And those arguments have been refuted and by vegetarians no less.

lvleph

Einstein?

pedalada

you are getting warm

Greko

FYI: Taste is something we learn.

We don’t come out of our’s mothers belly craving a BigMac. However, if our mother raises us on BigMacs, it does make us think we need them.

Yoshi

Hitler?

kafkaesque

That is a perfectly valid reason; it is not based on misinformation or on erroneous arguments about health or nature. I respect that completely.

For me personally, that was just not strong enough of a reason to kill animals that I had raised from little babies. I found many, many other delicious things to eat and the craving for meat is long gone


There is a world of plant based food beyond lentil burgers.

lvleph

Wasn't a vegetarian and is a myth related to a animal rights law passed in Germany somewhere around 1933.

lvleph

Gandhi?

pedalada

So you would like to think, after all. . .vegetarians are so more highly evolved than the rest of us.

Yoshi

In my admittedly limited research it appears as though Hitler considered himself a vegetarian but would eat meat on occasion. He was also a "vegetarian" primarily for health reasons.

But who really cares?

lvleph

Seriously get over that.

rhennigan

Hitler was also a strong proponent of DHMO as well with some records showing at least daily use.

Yoshi

Oh, and this argument is over with pendalada the loser in accordance with Godwin's Law.

lvleph

I am a hydrogeologist, so you won't get me with that one.

Except it didn't take as long as one might think.

pedalada

I never mentioned his name, you did. The amusing thing about messin' with veg-ilantes is how similar it is to messin' with fundamentalist christians. These threads come up pretty frequently and they all really belong in P&R.

slowandsteady

And that is exactly the reason I think people should be fully aware of where their food comes from. If you can't kill it yourself, you shouldn't be eating it IMHO. The animal makes a sacrifice for us, and the only way to fullly appeciate that is to do the deed yourself.

It always amazes me when I tell people I raise chickens for eggs and they give me a disgusted look and ask me how I can eat the eggs??? As if their eggs don't shoot out of a chicken's a$$.

kafkaesque

I was really trying to respect your position when you said you ate them for the taste and to satiate a craving, but you are deluded if you think the animal is making a sacrifice for your sake. You are taking it's life from it by force. A better way to truly appreciate it would be to not kill it. The idea that the animal gives itself so that we may live is a romanticized fantasy.

DocRay

you should learn a little more about chicken physiology.

Enthalpic

Chicken periods are tasty.

Greko

If anyone here really believes it’s their natural instinct to eat meat - like a carnivore. It would also be your natural instinct to rip the head off an animal and eat it raw - like a true carnivore does.

Until you choose to kill and eat a raw animal with your bare hands, over a plate of pasta & vegetables, don’t even try to convince me it’s your instinct to eat meat.

BTW: Ordering a burger at the drive-thru is not carnivores behavior.

dmotoguy

why does either side care what the other does, they obviously dont agree and never will.


I ate meat when I was young, I was vegetarian for 5 years, I eat meat again. Overall I cant tell too much of a difference in anything. There were no less cows killed because of my actions, just like there arent any more killed now that I eat a steak once in a while.


~3% of the population is vegetarian, 1% of them is vegan.
so in theory they save a couple hundred thousand cows a year = cheaper beef for me.

dmotoguy

Look it up, early humans were scavengers. They ate mostly vegitation but did eat what meat they could find and hunted small animals, then progressing to hunting larger animals as well after they figured out the whole tool thing. Humans have cooked meat for hundreds of thousands of years, so it is instinct in that sense. nice try though.

lvleph

+1 said the vegetarian.

mleess

Hey, let's also debate man-made global warming, Wal-Mart, and whether Scooter Libby should be pardoned! Then we can have some real fun. Oh yeah, we should mention a bike once in a while to keep it a bike forum.