From Lance to Landis: doping coverage on NPR
06-20-07, 06:28 AM
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From Lance to Landis: doping coverage on NPR
Here's an audio link to an interesting NPR story I heard on the way to work this morning: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=11208251
06-20-07, 06:33 AM
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came here to post same...
pretty interesting stuff...
p.s.: now get back to work!
pretty interesting stuff...
p.s.: now get back to work!
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06-20-07, 06:45 AM
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I'm not naive nor am I giving LA a pass here but you need more proof than what's been put out so far......
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06-20-07, 06:52 AM
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Fwiw, in this morning's NPR interview, when the author is directly asked if he believes Lance doped, he answers directly (yes).
Here's how he answered the same question when asked by Velonews three few years ago:
By Jason Sumner
VeloNews associate editor
This report filed June 18, 2004
David Walsh declines to answer when asked if he truly believes that Lance Armstrong has used performance-enhancing drugs.
The Irishman, co-author of the just-released "LA Confidential - The Secrets of Lance Armstrong," suggests that "it is not relevant what I think. (Pierre Ballester and I) have done what journalists are supposed to do: we have asked questions. Many, many people have helped by providing answers. We then write a book and the reader gets the chance to make up his or her own mind. What matters is the evidence of those who worked and rode with Lance Armstrong. The people who have been in his world."
Reckon between then and now he has seen or heard more evidence that makes him less reluctant to point the finger?
Here's how he answered the same question when asked by Velonews three few years ago:
By Jason Sumner
VeloNews associate editor
This report filed June 18, 2004
David Walsh declines to answer when asked if he truly believes that Lance Armstrong has used performance-enhancing drugs.
The Irishman, co-author of the just-released "LA Confidential - The Secrets of Lance Armstrong," suggests that "it is not relevant what I think. (Pierre Ballester and I) have done what journalists are supposed to do: we have asked questions. Many, many people have helped by providing answers. We then write a book and the reader gets the chance to make up his or her own mind. What matters is the evidence of those who worked and rode with Lance Armstrong. The people who have been in his world."
Reckon between then and now he has seen or heard more evidence that makes him less reluctant to point the finger?
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06-20-07, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ostuni
Fwiw, in this morning's NPR interview, when the author is directly asked if he believes Lance doped, he answers directly (yes).
Here's how he answered the same question when asked by Velonews three few years ago:
By Jason Sumner
VeloNews associate editor
This report filed June 18, 2004
David Walsh declines to answer when asked if he truly believes that Lance Armstrong has used performance-enhancing drugs.
The Irishman, co-author of the just-released "LA Confidential - The Secrets of Lance Armstrong," suggests that "it is not relevant what I think. (Pierre Ballester and I) have done what journalists are supposed to do: we have asked questions. Many, many people have helped by providing answers. We then write a book and the reader gets the chance to make up his or her own mind. What matters is the evidence of those who worked and rode with Lance Armstrong. The people who have been in his world."
Reckon between then and now he has seen or heard more evidence that makes him less reluctant to point the finger?
Here's how he answered the same question when asked by Velonews three few years ago:
By Jason Sumner
VeloNews associate editor
This report filed June 18, 2004
David Walsh declines to answer when asked if he truly believes that Lance Armstrong has used performance-enhancing drugs.
The Irishman, co-author of the just-released "LA Confidential - The Secrets of Lance Armstrong," suggests that "it is not relevant what I think. (Pierre Ballester and I) have done what journalists are supposed to do: we have asked questions. Many, many people have helped by providing answers. We then write a book and the reader gets the chance to make up his or her own mind. What matters is the evidence of those who worked and rode with Lance Armstrong. The people who have been in his world."
Reckon between then and now he has seen or heard more evidence that makes him less reluctant to point the finger?
06-20-07, 07:06 AM
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I just listened to the NPR story.... Walsh offered not one shred of real evedence that Armstrong doped.... I, of course, have no way of knowing if he doped or not but evidence is what makes a case and again.. no evidence - just hearsay, opinion and specualtion....
06-20-07, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by vpiuva
Are you telling me people listen to NPR?
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Originally Posted by KrisPistofferson
The people not listening to Rush Limbaugh who read books? Yes they do.
06-20-07, 08:05 AM
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Giggling at the Rush comment(s). I heard that story on NPR this morning. Still doesn't sound like anyone has "real" proof, but obviously if you look at all the circumstantial evidence, one can become suspicious. If "everbody was doing it", and Lance still won, then what does that mean?
I'm not passionate about it either way. Just commenting.
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06-20-07, 08:17 AM
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rush limbaugh is a convicted doper...
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06-20-07, 08:24 AM
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and takes Viagra-fueled field trips to the Dominican Republic.
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Somebody trying to sell a book gives an interview; hmm, wonder what he'll say.
06-20-07, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by vpiuva
Are you telling me people listen to NPR?
06-20-07, 09:42 AM
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KGSR? - yeah, they have some good stuff from time to time. Can't listen to the link here at work.
Personally I think Lance might have doped. I hope he didn't and I'm wrong. I also hope that if he did that he never gets caught, because its all in the past now and no good can come from it, and because he has a major cancer foundation that helps a LOT of people to run and promote. If real evidence were to surface now he doped during his cycling career, it would likely hurt if not destroy it.
Personally I think Lance might have doped. I hope he didn't and I'm wrong. I also hope that if he did that he never gets caught, because its all in the past now and no good can come from it, and because he has a major cancer foundation that helps a LOT of people to run and promote. If real evidence were to surface now he doped during his cycling career, it would likely hurt if not destroy it.
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Why isn't he calling out the TDF winners from 1990-98 if, why just Lance and Landis. I'm not defending LA or FL but if you are true crusade to rid cycling of doping lets look at all the TDF winners. Unless they have already been busted for doping. I'm sure this is a dead horse by now.
06-20-07, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hos13
Why isn't he calling out the TDF winners from 1990-98 if, why just Lance and Landis. I'm not defending LA or FL but if you are true crusade to rid cycling of doping lets look at all the TDF winners. Unless they have already been busted for doping. I'm sure this is a dead horse by now.
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Originally Posted by vpiuva
Are you telling me people listen to NPR?
they really dumbed it down.
Bring back Mike Sweddy and his recipes for Sweddy weiners and balls.
06-20-07, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by hos13
Why isn't he calling out the TDF winners from 1990-98 if, why just Lance and Landis. I'm not defending LA or FL but if you are true crusade to rid cycling of doping lets look at all the TDF winners. Unless they have already been busted for doping. I'm sure this is a dead horse by now.
All true champions who worked harder and wanted it more.
06-20-07, 10:40 AM
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I hear there are some who listen to NPR AND Rush.....but not many of us.
06-20-07, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DocRay
they used to, but now it's just a bunch of pseudo-intellectual crap and white guys navel gazing.
they really dumbed it down.
Bring back Mike Sweddy and his recipes for Sweddy weiners and balls.
they really dumbed it down.
Bring back Mike Sweddy and his recipes for Sweddy weiners and balls.
06-20-07, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by NickExxon
Ummm, that's Pete Schweddy, IIRC.
06-20-07, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by vpiuva
Are you telling me people listen to NPR?
06-20-07, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NotAsFat
I listen to NPR regularly. I want to know what the liberals are planning to do to us - raise our taxes, screw up the health care system, open the borders so anybody, including terrorists can come here, then they want to take our guns away so we can't even protect ourselves from the terrorist freaks they won't defend us from.
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