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"Easton lies about their wheel weights"
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"Easton lies about their wheel weights"
So I was told at an LBS today. True or false? Irresponsible L*BS* ?
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I think it's pretty common that most parts makers aren't completely correct on their weights. Weight Weenies has a list of bike parts, what the claimed weight is, and what the actual weight was. Sometimes it's only off by a little bit (plus or minus), sometimes it's a big difference.
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I only ask b/c the one wheel I ever weighed, the Ritchey DS something or other I have, weighed *exactly* 650g on my kitchen scale, which is what they claim it weighs. Go figure. I was surprised to hear such a bold claim.
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Most are off but not all. I think bar makers are the worst listings as they usually list the same weight for all bars but the listed one is the smallest in the line
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i guess it's acceptable to be off by a little bit, because there are manufacturing tollerances, but sometimes those numbers are off by a lot.
it's a business though, and like every other business their goal it to make money, and lighter sells better. end of argument...
it's a business though, and like every other business their goal it to make money, and lighter sells better. end of argument...
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https://weightweenies.starbike.com/li...ype=roadwheels
Looks like almost all of mavic's wheels are overweight.
Looks like almost all of mavic's wheels are overweight.
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Easton Ascent II Wheelset...
Easton's claimed weight...1419g...Front 618g...Rear 809g...
Hammertoe's weigh in......1486g...Front 626g...Rear 860g...
Hammertoe's weight included rim tape...
67g difference...0.147 lbs...
I say Easton is pretty close and would not call there claimed weight lies...
Your LBS is blowing smoke...
Easton's claimed weight...1419g...Front 618g...Rear 809g...
Hammertoe's weigh in......1486g...Front 626g...Rear 860g...
Hammertoe's weight included rim tape...
67g difference...0.147 lbs...
I say Easton is pretty close and would not call there claimed weight lies...
Your LBS is blowing smoke...
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Interestingly, most of the Zipp model weight claims were conservative and WW found them to actually be LIGHTER. You Get What You Pay For #231. Of course if it's not worth shelling out $1950 (current MSRP for Zipp 404s) for lighter wheels, who can blame you? Nevertheless,
Zipps RULE.
Zipps RULE.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Interestingly, most of the Zipp model weight claims were conservative and WW found them to actually be LIGHTER. You Get What You Pay For #231. Of course if it's not worth shelling out $1950 (current MSRP for Zipp 404s) for lighter wheels, who can blame you? Nevertheless,
Zipps RULE.
Zipps RULE.
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My reynolds are lighter than spec too.
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I don't really care if it weighs 10 grams more than spec. What I love about my Easton Circuits is that they're damn fine wheels that can take a beating.
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Think about it this way, overspec means it's over built and it's a STRONGER wheel.
PatentCad's wheels on the other hand, oh boy.. way under spec. It must be missing like, an entire layer of carbon. He's a dead man.
PatentCad's wheels on the other hand, oh boy.. way under spec. It must be missing like, an entire layer of carbon. He's a dead man.
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Originally Posted by Zinn-X
I don't really care if it weighs 10 grams more than spec. What I love about my Easton Circuits is that they're damn fine wheels that can take a beating.
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Originally Posted by GuitarWizard
I thought you posted recently that after spending some time on the Zipps, you DID state that you would probably pay full retail for them?
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Forum BS is quite different from ponying up the dough. Try not to be such an unmitigated sap.
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Originally Posted by operator
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