Suncreen Article
 

It is almost impossible to find a sunscreen without those ingredients. All list the SPF.

The best sunscreens are opaque, either zinc or titanium oxide. Neutrogena is for sunbathers.

DocRay:

if you read the article, UVB is not the issue. The issue is the UVA rays, and many subscreens do not contain wither of the above two ingredients. Plus, if they do, studies have shown that the UVA ingredients (except Helioplex or Mexoryl blends) break down UVB ingredients faster than previously thought.

I agree, Zinc/Titanium Oxide is a good UVB blocking ingredient, but it was only until recently that UVA started to become something dermotologists became aware of.

Doc Ray:

also - I did not realize that sun exposure changed based on whether you were cycling or sunbathing?

Bullfrog Surfer Formula

You can close the thread now. If you think another sunscreen is better, your mistaken. It's not your fault, but now you know....

Since Mexoryl was just approved in the U.S. in July of 2006, most sunscreen products in the U.S. don't have it in it. I have 5 bottles of different brands of sunscreen at home and none of them have Mexoryl in it. Lancôme UV Expert 20 has it in it which the wife uses. I also use it on my face and it does work better than other products without Mexoryl.

Not true, CCFish
the best is Anthelios. HDwound beat me to the punch, it is the
best of the mexoryl sunsctreens.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sunscreen/SN00041

Thanks for posting this VT Biker.

I'll just keep using my mix of baby seal blubber and rosy periwinkle pedal extract, but thanks.

The Neutrogena stuff is awesome! I bought some for a beach trip this past Sunday and it's so easy to spray on. It doesn't give me problems like oil or lotion does.

rule - good advice. But it only works if you have personally clubbed the baby seal yourself.

That article is not well written, dermatologist have known about UVA damage for decades. The Zinc/Ti creams are the best because they block all light, even infrared light, which is also damaging. No clear liquid will block far UV and infrared. Most people don't use the products properly, they need to be applied thick, and frequently. Not like on the TV commercials.

Studies are showing that people who use sunblock and tanning oil are getting higher levels of skin cancer than those who don't, because they abuse these products to stay in the sun longer. For back of neck, and nose, Ti creams are the way to go. Some days I wear a light long sleeve jersey. But the best defense is not to ride in hours of high UV. Also, because the FDA does not regulate topical applicants, no one has tested whether these chemicals are safe to use in the long run. I can tell you a lot of these compounds are very similar in structure to known toxic chemicals, and many end up in the bloodstream.

Many are not safe for use on children.

I love bullfrog. It most definitely works. I have a jersey that has little holes all over it. Didn't think of putting lotion on underneath. I ended up having a polka dot jersey for a week.

How do you know it works? Because you don't get sunburn?
That's the issue, many of these products prevent sunburn, but they don't prevent DNA damage.
So while you don't burn, you stay out longer and get dosed more than if you felt the burning.

The FDA approved Mexoryl in July of 2006 and didn't test it? LOL http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2006/NEW01417.html

I was a nuclear operator and have broken over 30 bones. I am screwed anyway.

They also approved Teflon and Asbestos...


http://www.webmd.com/news/20060127/e...n-chemical-ban

Avoid the nano-version of certain lotions, because they appear to be toxic due to their ability to enter the skin and into the tissues.

The BEST solution has always been to wear a large sunhat or use an umbrella. Zipp needs to make an aero sunhat for us summer bikers. I find that the helmets with the visors shade my nose and face quite well during periods of intense sunlight (11am-2pm).

"The most common side effects in patients were acne, dermatitis, dry skin, eczema, abnormal redness, itching, skin discomfort and sunburn."

No, they didn't test the breakdown products of this compound, no, they didn't test long term use of this compound, and yes, many people have died over the years from FDA approved drugs.

The FDA has 'streamlined' approval since 2000, which is very good for pharma corps.

and thalidomide

http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/0...s/image002.jpg

Vioxx, Fen-Fen, etc.etc.

Ummm no kidding guys -- Doc Ray said the FDA does not regulate this stuff. They approved Mexoryl so they DO regulate it. If they didn't it would have been available in the U.S. before 2006 when the approved it. I'm not naive enough to believe anything the FDA approves SHOULD be approved and is safe.

Maybe I should post with DOC before my name so you don't have to worry :rolleyes:

The regulate the compound, but they certainly don't test every product it goes into. But you're right, just randomly mixing chemicals and applying to your body in large amounts-what could happen?

Nano particles are virtually impossible to unclump. Because they are so small, the inter-particle forces over comes the body forces and they always end up turning into big clumps of non-nano balls. It's the big problem with nano-particles, you can make em but they bunch right back up again...its all just marketing (especially in sun block)

If the sun ever shines and if the temperatures ever warm up enough so that I can ride without a jacket and tights, I'll worry about sunscreen. The way it's going ... I don't see that happening this year.

How do you figure? Neutrogena Ultra Sheer, Dry-Touch Sunblock, SPF 55 scores an 8 (higher is worse) in the health hazard category.

Not a single Neutrogena sunscreen made the low health hazard / low sun hazard category.