How come in some TDF races we see riders with no helmets?
10-10-07, 01:45 AM
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How come in some TDF races we see riders with no helmets?
Wondering why that is? If I was a pro I don't think I'd do some risky maneuvers if I didn't have a helmet on. I'm not a safety nazi, just wondering why there are pics of a whole peloton with no helmets? Is there a reason behind it, maybe some tactical advantage?
10-10-07, 03:32 AM
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10-10-07, 03:39 AM
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Is it not certain climbing stages that can be exempt?
I'd have thought it would be compulsory to wear them on every stage, not least for sponsorship...
If the OP and the replys are in humour, it's lost on me sorry and I'm a fool...
I'd have thought it would be compulsory to wear them on every stage, not least for sponsorship...
If the OP and the replys are in humour, it's lost on me sorry and I'm a fool...
10-10-07, 03:49 AM
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There are tons of idiots in the sport. Same reason most of them dope. What the average folk with average intelligence believes to be common sense, the pros (most have idiot genes) believe otherwise.
Read Nature Journal. Many studies have shown that pro road bike racers have the lowest IQs among athletic pros.
Read Nature Journal. Many studies have shown that pro road bike racers have the lowest IQs among athletic pros.
10-10-07, 03:55 AM
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Got a photo of a pro tour rider in the last two years without a helmet in any race?
I'd like to see it.
I'd like to see it.
10-10-07, 04:01 AM
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The rules allow them not to wear helmets under some very limited conditions- i think it has to be a climbing finish with no downhill after the climb starts. The organizers try to avoid this situation to force helmet use all the time.
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If you take a look at, for example, stage 14 from last July's TdF, with a mountain top finish at Plateau de Beille, note that all the riders I can see have helmets, including all of the leaders.
So I am looking for a photo of a rider sans helmet in the last two years.
If you are not sure, ask Saul Raisin if he'd be alive today without one. Henk Vogels would also be good to ask.
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10-10-07, 05:59 AM
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Roadwarrior....You are right...Helmets mandatory all the time...
Use to be that for mountain top finishes you could ditch the helmet on the last climb...They were probably seeing video from a number of years ago when the rules on helmets were more lax...
Use to be that for mountain top finishes you could ditch the helmet on the last climb...They were probably seeing video from a number of years ago when the rules on helmets were more lax...
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This thread is so full of misinformation that it should be deleted.
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Yes cycling pro's used to NOT wear helmets. Over the last several years they have become compulsory.
The reason that they used to not wear them was to stay cooler. I guess that the powers that be have made them compulsory because of public relations considerations more than anything. How can you convince some young guy that he must wear a helmet if his cycling hero's don't wear them.
Regards, Anthony
The reason that they used to not wear them was to stay cooler. I guess that the powers that be have made them compulsory because of public relations considerations more than anything. How can you convince some young guy that he must wear a helmet if his cycling hero's don't wear them.
Regards, Anthony
10-10-07, 06:32 AM
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There are tons of idiots in the sport. Same reason most of them dope. What the average folk with average intelligence believes to be common sense, the pros (most have idiot genes) believe otherwise.
Read Nature Journal. Many studies have shown that pro road bike racers have the lowest IQs among athletic pros.
Read Nature Journal. Many studies have shown that pro road bike racers have the lowest IQs among athletic pros.
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Greetings!
UCI rules made helmets mandatory several years ago (2003) in any UCI races, of which the TDF is one. The exception to this is that riders MAY remove their helmets if the finish is on an uphill section or at the top of a hill of at least 5KM climb and the helmet cannot be removed before a marker at the start of the climb.
They all take them off for cooling (what else?) and that is the only exception allowed. Whether it's dumb or not is not for me to say as I can't handle a bike like they can and I'm never at their intensity. I ALWAYS wear mine!
However, now I understand that in 2005 the exception was dropped, but trying to find the up to date UCI rules that show this has been frustrating and I have not been able to find it.
Regards,
Jefferito
UCI rules made helmets mandatory several years ago (2003) in any UCI races, of which the TDF is one. The exception to this is that riders MAY remove their helmets if the finish is on an uphill section or at the top of a hill of at least 5KM climb and the helmet cannot be removed before a marker at the start of the climb.
They all take them off for cooling (what else?) and that is the only exception allowed. Whether it's dumb or not is not for me to say as I can't handle a bike like they can and I'm never at their intensity. I ALWAYS wear mine!
However, now I understand that in 2005 the exception was dropped, but trying to find the up to date UCI rules that show this has been frustrating and I have not been able to find it.
Regards,
Jefferito
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10-10-07, 04:32 PM
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There are tons of idiots in the sport. Same reason most of them dope. What the average folk with average intelligence believes to be common sense, the pros (most have idiot genes) believe otherwise.
Read Nature Journal. Many studies have shown that pro road bike racers have the lowest IQs among athletic pros.
Read Nature Journal. Many studies have shown that pro road bike racers have the lowest IQs among athletic pros.
10-10-07, 04:41 PM
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Anybody that would actually reference Nature would actually reference Nature (that is, cite the appropriate article). Thus, I call shenanigans on Franck Cisco and wait for him to give us the citation information.
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Greetings!
UCI rules made helmets mandatory several years ago (2003) in any UCI races, of which the TDF is one. The exception to this is that riders MAY remove their helmets if the finish is on an uphill section or at the top of a hill of at least 5KM climb and the helmet cannot be removed before a marker at the start of the climb.
They all take them off for cooling (what else?) and that is the only exception allowed. Whether it's dumb or not is not for me to say as I can't handle a bike like they can and I'm never at their intensity. I ALWAYS wear mine!
However, now I understand that in 2005 the exception was dropped, but trying to find the up to date UCI rules that show this has been frustrating and I have not been able to find it.
Regards,
Jefferito
UCI rules made helmets mandatory several years ago (2003) in any UCI races, of which the TDF is one. The exception to this is that riders MAY remove their helmets if the finish is on an uphill section or at the top of a hill of at least 5KM climb and the helmet cannot be removed before a marker at the start of the climb.
They all take them off for cooling (what else?) and that is the only exception allowed. Whether it's dumb or not is not for me to say as I can't handle a bike like they can and I'm never at their intensity. I ALWAYS wear mine!
However, now I understand that in 2005 the exception was dropped, but trying to find the up to date UCI rules that show this has been frustrating and I have not been able to find it.
Regards,
Jefferito
If your last paragraph is correct, why did you post the first two?
Just sayin'
Helmets are mandatory at all times. End of story.
10-11-07, 05:09 AM
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Thanks for the laugh. Which is generally why I attend.
For perspective...in a bike shop this level of information is provided face to face. Imagine having to look at the person who says some of these things and having to retain your self-control.