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Old 11-19-07, 03:01 PM
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Internal cable routing

After looking at the new Madone I find myself wishing my Tarmac Pro had internal cable routing. Are there any cons to it? Does it make maintenance more difficult?
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Pain to route, noisy from the cables clanging around, difficult to mount barrel adjusters for Shimano.
 
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It's a great idea.
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I like it, never had any noise problems or difficulty adjusting.
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Originally Posted by DocRay
Pain to route, noisy from the cables clanging around.
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Internal cable routing was the only thing I didn't like about the Soloist. It is a necessary evil in a bike of that nature though. It was just noisy, was all. Shimano is the devil so no worries there.
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i like the idea, it looks cleaner and makes sense, but is it going to make that much of a difference? No, plus its a pain in th ass to route.
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I have a bike with internal brake cable, and I had a klien mountain bike with shifter cables that were internally routed. noise was really not an issue, but it could be. on the klien dirt got in and caused the front derailuer to snap on a ride. most cx bikes have exposed cables routed on the toptube for a reason.

the thing with internal cables is more friction. typically, if it's internal, the cable routes through housing and the more a cable is in housing, the more friction. I make sure there is lots of grease in there.
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the thing with internal cables is more friction. typically, if it's internal, the cable routes through housing and the more a cable is in housing, the more friction. I make sure there is lots of grease in there.
internal cables aren't housed. also, most cables are teflon and work better dry.
 
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...also more points for water to enter the frame. one of the little details i love about my LOOK frame is the headtube cable guides. no slap or wear, its how it should be done.
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Originally Posted by DocRay
internal cables aren't housed...
Au contraire.

On my Trek 1400, the cable housing runs the length of the cable end-to-end even where its hidden:





The housing is simply routed within the top tube.

Of course, other bikes differ.
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casati does some nice work with internal cable routing.

in the head tube...


and out the chain stay.




photos courtesy of cyclingnews.com
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Originally Posted by Quijibo187
casati does some nice work with internal cable routing.

in the head tube...


and out the chain stay.




photos courtesy of cyclingnews.com
I'd hate to be the mechanic to build that bike.

I just built a bike up for a friend. A custom Tiemeyer TT bike with internal routing. Lets just say it took me 2 hours to cable up that thing (I was also doing a Nokon job, so it added more time than standard cables)
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My klein has internal routing, and no internal housing
Little bit of a pain (no barrel adjusters) but not bad to swap out cables if you know what you're doing.
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actually the routing on the casati has a carbon lining all the way through so you just feed the cable in one end and it comes out the other.
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"I'd hate to be the mechanic to build that bike."

Internal cable routing is not bad at all to route. You just have to go Discovery Channel on it. Remember, “primates often use simple tools to accomplish tasks”. Here is what I did to deal with the cables on my Klein Adroit. Take a wire shirt hanger and bend it straight. Then bend the tip of one end down at a bout a 30 degree angle. Electric tape the cable to the other end. Slide the end with the bent tip in and it will slide right through the hole in the other end.

Just my $0.02.
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