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Maybe I Shouldn't Throw the Bird Anymore...

Old 11-22-07, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieWoo
IMHO, there is no such thing as a "courtesy honk". A horn is an emergency device. To most cyclists the sound of a horn, no matter how brief, means only one thing: DANGER.

IMHO a light tap on the horn back far enough down the road to not startle a cyclist is indeed a courtesy honk, is appreciated by me, and was widely practiced in the Bay Area when I started cycling in the mid -seventies.
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Frankly I,ve always been fond of honkers,but thats just me.
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You're going to flip the bird based on how long someone's hand is on the horn? Get a life. Not all motorists know what or how to use a horn. 1 ton of steel vs. 17 pounds of carbon. Why take the risk. Just wave and assume it was a courtesy honk.
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Old 11-23-07, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by spry
Frankly I,ve always been fond of honkers,but thats just me.

Wow, it takes a man very comfortable with his own sexuality to just come right out and admit that in public. Way to go...
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Originally Posted by ovrrdrive
Wow, it takes a man very comfortable with his own sexuality to just come right out and admit that in public. Way to go...
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Originally Posted by ovrrdrive
Wow, it takes a man very comfortable with his own sexuality to just come right out and admit that in public. Way to go...
+1 now that was a good one liner
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Old 11-23-07, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
I agree. But I guess the problem is that I think a 'courtesy honk' should be a 'toot'. Honks startle me and then piss me off. And the majority of the time, people follow the honk was a shout or a finger, even if I don't.
Here's the rub. Some people do honk to announce their presence. If this startles you, it's a sign that you either need to be more aware of your surroundings or you need to work on your reflexes. If courtesy honkers make you jump, then the jerks that buzz you while really laying on the horn could easily make you crash -- a very dangerous situation. Also, it means you probably won't react very well in a real emergency.

I tell people who know me to honk at me (but make it clear that you should never do this with other cyclists) specifically to help train my reflexes. Whether someone is giving a courtesy honk, buzzing you, or there is an actual emergency where they are warning that you are about to be hit, you are in a much better position if you can keep your cool, quickly assess the situation, and take your best option. As soon as you panic, you are relying on luck alone which is a great way to get screwed.
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Old 11-23-07, 02:51 PM
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I have a cheapo Walmart air horn strapped to the top of my steerer (and dipped in black to match the bike and feed the Fred in me). Cars are really surprised when I honk at them, and it gets out some of my anger without causing a confrontation.

Of course, sometimes I yell obscenities at them too which I agree is really stupid and asking for trouble. I guess I'm probably not thinking clearly enough when some moron almost puts me in a ditch.... I envy those of you who have more restraint.
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Originally Posted by RichmondRider
I guess I'm probably not thinking clearly enough when some moron almost puts me in a ditch.... I envy those of you who have more restraint.
My feelings exactly. The majority of responders in this thread apparently have much more restraint than me, that is, if they are all being truthful.
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Originally Posted by cytoman
You're going to flip the bird based on how long someone's hand is on the horn? Get a life. Not all motorists know what or how to use a horn. 1 ton of steel vs. 17 pounds of carbon. Why take the risk. Just wave and assume it was a courtesy honk.
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That's 17 pounds of aluminum to you.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
That's 17 pounds of aluminum to you.
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crimson, just as an aside here, I have ridden in that park many times and it is one of the least bike friendly places I ride here in old O-h-i-O. I think most of the people down there veiw it as their own personnel freeway.
BTW have you ever seen the parkrangers radaring for speeders? In the 100's of times I've been down there I have never seen it done, the speed limit is 30 and I have been passed by numerous drivers going well over 60.

I have flipped off my share of drivers in that park too, oh well.

To give others out there an idea how bad things get in this park, a local radio station once told listeners to hit cyclist and call in to brag about it, thankfully local authorities got invloved and had them recend and apologize for it.
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Old 11-23-07, 06:28 PM
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Leinad, I usually don't have any problems at all with the park. I only get hassled once or twice a month. For the old people, I like to steer my bike in front of them and go slow.

And was that Lannigan who told people to hit cyclists? Or was that Opie & Anthony?
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I think its funny you wernt worried about the mini van that could have crushed you and instead backed down when a human bigger than you got in your face.
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Originally Posted by Sirrobinofcoxly
Courtesy honks are such bull****. They just startle the rider. I don't think drivers understand a cyclist, especially on a city road, can hear a car coming. We're not locked inside an airtight box, with the stereo going like they are. If it's a quiet road, you can hear them coming too.
Courtesy honks are not BS cause you cant always hear them coming.
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crimson, I can't remember, but I beleive it was the later, though I won't put it past lannigan to say something like that too!!
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I wouldn't say I backed down. I called him a Lame-o McLamester from the planet LamO, then I ran.
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Originally Posted by wfrogge
Courtesy honks are not BS cause you cant always hear them coming.
But they are because if you're being passed it doesn't matter what you can hear. It's the responsibility of the passer to make sure the situation is safe and that the pass is executed properly.

That is unless you're all over the road, in which case maybe you should reconsider your choice of hobby.
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Originally Posted by Fred Smedley
IMHO a light tap on the horn back far enough down the road to not startle a cyclist is indeed a courtesy honk, is appreciated by me, and was widely practiced in the Bay Area when I started cycling in the mid -seventies.
That's actually against the law in some places.
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Originally Posted by banerjek
Here's the rub. Some people do honk to announce their presence. If this startles you, it's a sign that you either need to be more aware of your surroundings or you need to work on your reflexes. If courtesy honkers make you jump, then the jerks that buzz you while really laying on the horn could easily make you crash -- a very dangerous situation. Also, it means you probably won't react very well in a real emergency.

I tell people who know me to honk at me (but make it clear that you should never do this with other cyclists) specifically to help train my reflexes. Whether someone is giving a courtesy honk, buzzing you, or
there is an actual emergency where they are warning that you are about to be hit, you are in a much better position if you can keep your cool, quickly assess the situation, and take your best option. As soon as you panic, you are relying on luck alone which is a great way to get screwed.
Has anyone in the history of cycling ever been honked at right before they were hit??? (well... other than someone actually TRYING to hit them?) Every time I've ever either been hit or seen someone else get hit the driver had their head so far up their ass that they had no clue what was going on around them.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
That's 17 pounds of aluminum to you.
40 lbs of steel.
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Originally Posted by bmclaughlin807
That's actually against the law in some places.
And your point is?
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Originally Posted by wfrogge
Courtesy honks are not BS cause you cant always hear them coming.
If you can't hear an overtaking car without it honking at you, you need to turn the ipod down or get a hearing aid.
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I would suggest perfecting the art of pulling down your bike shorts with your saddle. My brother did it once on accident. One of the funniest cycling moments of all time.

You just sit down on your top tube and hook your waistband under the front of your saddle. Then stand up on your pedals, and you're set. That's more effective than giving the finger anyways. If someone did that to me, I'd pass as quickly as possible, and not go back for more.
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Originally Posted by bmclaughlin807
40 lbs of steel.
No doubt. I'm glad I'm not the only one around here.

In the mornings you can throw in a 5lb battery too.
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