Should I upgrade to Dura-Ace now, or wait?
#1
militant buddhist
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Old Bridge, NJ
Posts: 1,613
Bikes: '08 Scott CR-1 Pro, '02 Jamis Nova
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Should I upgrade to Dura-Ace now, or wait?
I bought a CR-1 Pro not too long ago, and would like to get it as light as possible. One of the things I'm going to do at some point, is upgrade from the Ultegra groupset that it has now, to Dura-Ace. Normally, I'd wait a couple months til the christmas credit card debt is completely paid off (also because you can get a full Dura Ace group from PBK for under a grand), but I'm wondering if now would be a better time, since the components on the bike now have very low outdoor mileage, and would probably be a bit easier to sell on Ebay. Right now I have under 200 miles of outdoor mileage on it...will it significantly depreciate as the miles pass? Also, I'm kind of hoping to get between $300 and $400 for the set. Is that realistic?
Hey, another question - I didn't even think about picking up Campy. Is that better than Shimano?
Hey, another question - I didn't even think about picking up Campy. Is that better than Shimano?
#2
Carpe Diem
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: MABRA
Posts: 13,149
Bikes: 2007 CAAD9; 2014 CAADX; PedalForce CG1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Upgrade to Red, if you want to get it "as light as possible"
__________________
"When you are chewing the bars at the business end of a 90 mile road race you really dont care what gear you have hanging from your bike so long as it works."
ΛΧΑ ΔΞ179 - 15% off your first Hammer Nutrition order!
"When you are chewing the bars at the business end of a 90 mile road race you really dont care what gear you have hanging from your bike so long as it works."
ΛΧΑ ΔΞ179 - 15% off your first Hammer Nutrition order!
#3
militant buddhist
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Old Bridge, NJ
Posts: 1,613
Bikes: '08 Scott CR-1 Pro, '02 Jamis Nova
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#4
nom nom nom
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,096
Bikes: Lemond Tete de Course, Slingshot DDX, Fuji Track Pro, Surly Steamroller
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
You should get more than 3-400 for the ultegra, just make sure to list all the parts individually, and include good pictures.
#5
militant buddhist
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Old Bridge, NJ
Posts: 1,613
Bikes: '08 Scott CR-1 Pro, '02 Jamis Nova
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
You mean sell each part individually (sorry, I'm actually very new to the ebay thing)? Should I set reserves for any of the parts? Also, I can get more than 3-400 now, or is depreciation not a big factor? In other words, so long as there's low wear/no scratches, is it all the same once you slap the "Used" tag on it, or does the depreciation accelerate from 200 mile to, say, 500 miles?
#6
nom nom nom
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,096
Bikes: Lemond Tete de Course, Slingshot DDX, Fuji Track Pro, Surly Steamroller
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
You mean sell each part individually (sorry, I'm actually very new to the ebay thing)? Should I set reserves for any of the parts? Also, I can get more than 3-400 now, or is depreciation not a big factor? In other words, so long as there's low wear/no scratches, is it all the same once you slap the "Used" tag on it, or does the depreciation accelerate from 200 mile to, say, 500 miles?
I wouldn't worry about depreciation, it seems like all the mileages listed on ebay are bogus anyway.
Your results may vary, but this is what has worked for me.
#7
Über Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,489
Bikes: 2005 Trek 5000 (the last OCLV)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#8
militant buddhist
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Old Bridge, NJ
Posts: 1,613
Bikes: '08 Scott CR-1 Pro, '02 Jamis Nova
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Yea you should sell each component individually. You can set reserves, but it seems like most of the time stuff goes for more when its listed a $.99 with no reserve. Also end the auction on a sunday night, so it ends around 9pm eastern. I saw some Ultegra brifters go for $135 this morning because nobody is checking out ebay at 9 on a monday morning.
I wouldn't worry about depreciation, it seems like all the mileages listed on ebay are bogus anyway.
Your results may vary, but this is what has worked for me.
I wouldn't worry about depreciation, it seems like all the mileages listed on ebay are bogus anyway.
Your results may vary, but this is what has worked for me.
#9
militant buddhist
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Old Bridge, NJ
Posts: 1,613
Bikes: '08 Scott CR-1 Pro, '02 Jamis Nova
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#11
militant buddhist
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Old Bridge, NJ
Posts: 1,613
Bikes: '08 Scott CR-1 Pro, '02 Jamis Nova
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#12
SilentRider
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 2,383
Bikes: Trek Madone SLR 7, Giant TCR Advanced Pro, Trek Domane SLR, Trek Emonda SLR Project One (x2), custom Bingham Built Titanium road bike
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
You obviously like what you see now with the DA group. Go ahead and get it now if that's what you want.
You have some good guidance on how to go about doing that with the posts above.
The idea of waiting for something better (or for the price to be lowered on the current version) is a noble one, but you could apply that to any purchase. And if you really apply it, you'd never buy anything. Live in the now (within reason, obviously) .. get it now and don't look back. Will it all of a sudden be cheaper the moment after you purchase it? Perhaps, but so what?
And that range is about right for what you should expect to get for your Ultegra set.
You have some good guidance on how to go about doing that with the posts above.
The idea of waiting for something better (or for the price to be lowered on the current version) is a noble one, but you could apply that to any purchase. And if you really apply it, you'd never buy anything. Live in the now (within reason, obviously) .. get it now and don't look back. Will it all of a sudden be cheaper the moment after you purchase it? Perhaps, but so what?
And that range is about right for what you should expect to get for your Ultegra set.
#13
Banned.
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Woodstock
Posts: 5,761
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
It's not 'maybe' a new groupset...it's coming this year
#14
.
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 40,375
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 27 Times
in
12 Posts
fwiw - i love my DA
fwiw2 - i'm building up a beater bike with rival. sorely tempted to put ultegra cranks/bb/fd on it, but until i experience the rival versions, i don't see the point in the additional expense. even if pbk has a great deal on them right now.
#16
Carpe Diem
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: MABRA
Posts: 13,149
Bikes: 2007 CAAD9; 2014 CAADX; PedalForce CG1
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
__________________
"When you are chewing the bars at the business end of a 90 mile road race you really dont care what gear you have hanging from your bike so long as it works."
ΛΧΑ ΔΞ179 - 15% off your first Hammer Nutrition order!
"When you are chewing the bars at the business end of a 90 mile road race you really dont care what gear you have hanging from your bike so long as it works."
ΛΧΑ ΔΞ179 - 15% off your first Hammer Nutrition order!
#18
militant buddhist
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Old Bridge, NJ
Posts: 1,613
Bikes: '08 Scott CR-1 Pro, '02 Jamis Nova
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Who's we? I wasn't asking anyone to run my budget, I was asking botto his reasoning.
Has Shimano said that? Or just the quote from that Rabobank mechanic that led to the ongoing thread about the new groupset?
Has Shimano said that? Or just the quote from that Rabobank mechanic that led to the ongoing thread about the new groupset?
#19
The Improbable Bulk
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Posts: 8,379
Bikes: Many
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times
in
7 Posts
Upgrade immediately!
Then upgrade when next year's group comes out!
That is the Bikeforums Road Cycling way!
NEVER be seen with last year's group, and NEVER be seen without the most expensive group you have enough available credit to charge.
Then upgrade when next year's group comes out!
That is the Bikeforums Road Cycling way!
NEVER be seen with last year's group, and NEVER be seen without the most expensive group you have enough available credit to charge.
#20
Banned.
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Woodstock
Posts: 5,761
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#21
militant buddhist
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Old Bridge, NJ
Posts: 1,613
Bikes: '08 Scott CR-1 Pro, '02 Jamis Nova
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#22
slow up hills
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,931
Bikes: Giant TCR, Redline CX, Ritchey Breakaway, Spec S-works epic
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
^^ nope, everyone's talking about DA w/o antenna cables.
Honestly, you have ultegra, you've admitted that you don't have tons of cash kicking around -- is it worth $600 to you to upgrade? Are you going to race? what happens if you crash? If you don't race, do you think it'll make much difference at all to be riding DA? If you just want the feel, ultegra SL brifers go for <$200 on ebay, and have nearly the same metallic click that DA does.
It's all up to you, but upgrading just because you can concievably do it in your budget doesn't always make it a good idea
Honestly, you have ultegra, you've admitted that you don't have tons of cash kicking around -- is it worth $600 to you to upgrade? Are you going to race? what happens if you crash? If you don't race, do you think it'll make much difference at all to be riding DA? If you just want the feel, ultegra SL brifers go for <$200 on ebay, and have nearly the same metallic click that DA does.
It's all up to you, but upgrading just because you can concievably do it in your budget doesn't always make it a good idea
#23
I eat carbide.
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Elgin, IL
Posts: 21,627
Bikes: Lots. Van Dessel and Squid Dealer
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1325 Post(s)
Liked 1,306 Times
in
560 Posts
FWIW - older versions of DA don't really drop in price much if any. It just seems like the new groups get more expensive.
Also going from Ultegra to DA I would keep the cassette and Front Der. as Ultegra. Swap the Rear Der. the STI levers, and brake calipers. Crank = meh. I think either is fine. Chain - no brainer to switch to a different chain...might I recommend KMC DX10 (sold at Performance as their "Forte" brand).
Also going from Ultegra to DA I would keep the cassette and Front Der. as Ultegra. Swap the Rear Der. the STI levers, and brake calipers. Crank = meh. I think either is fine. Chain - no brainer to switch to a different chain...might I recommend KMC DX10 (sold at Performance as their "Forte" brand).
__________________
PSIMET Wheels, PSIMET Racing, PSIMET Neutral Race Support, and 11 Jackson Coffee
Podcast - YouTube Channel
Video about PSIMET Wheels
Podcast - YouTube Channel
Video about PSIMET Wheels