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    The glass is half full for Astana

    Vuelta says Astaná welcome

    Alberto Contador and his Astaná teammates might not be racing in July, but Vuelta a España officials were quick to say that the team is welcome in the season’s final grand tour.

    Vuelta director Victor Cordero told the Spanish wire agency EFE that the Spanish tour will not follow the lead taken by the Giro d’Italia and the Tour to exclude Astaná and said he hopes to see the team for the Vuelta start in Granada on Aug. 30.

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    Not if ASO buys the Vuelta as some reports say they will do....

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    You can always rely on Victor and other Spanish cycling officials to stick up for the local boys.

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    But isn't Astana a primarily "tour" team like Discovery was? Weren't the sponsors, (especially the U.S. sponsors), in it for the tour? This is not good for the team management. They made a lot of promises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donrhummy View Post
    Not if ASO buys the Vuelta as some reports say they will do....
    incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Guanche View Post
    You can always rely on Victor and other Spanish cycling officials to stick up for the local boys.
    The funny thing is Contador had no plans of doing the Vuelta. The spanish were very upset that he would shun his national race for other events.

    Those like Sastre, Valverde whom are much larger icons in cycling always make the effort for the spanish events. it's almost like Contador is above his roots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic32amg View Post
    The funny thing is Contador had no plans of doing the Vuelta. The spanish were very upset that he would shun his national race for other events.

    Those like Sastre, Valverde whom are much larger icons in cycling always make the effort for the spanish events.
    it's almost like Contador is above his roots.
    Indurain never had much interest in the Vuelta either. Was he "above his roots?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic32amg View Post
    The funny thing is Contador had no plans of doing the Vuelta. The spanish were very upset that he would shun his national race for other events.

    Those like Sastre, Valverde whom are much larger icons in cycling always make the effort for the spanish events. it's almost like Contador is above his roots.


    Once Valverde and Sastre win a tour and then have a chance to defend their title, see where the Vuelta ranks in their racing schedules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lannytrek View Post
    Once Valverde and Sastre win a tour and then have a chance to defend their title, see where the Vuelta ranks in their racing schedules.
    straight up!

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    And Valverde skipped the Vuelta last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    incorrect.
    So the news reports have been false rumors? Please update us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    Indurain never had much interest in the Vuelta either. Was he "above his roots?"
    yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic32amg View Post
    The funny thing is Contador had no plans of doing the Vuelta. The spanish were very upset that he would shun his national race for other events.

    Those like Sastre, Valverde whom are much larger icons in cycling always make the effort for the spanish events. it's almost like Contador is above his roots.
    ???

    “If they don’t invite us I will focus on other objectives. I have a ‘plan B’ if the Tour doesn’t want me,” Contador told Spanish sports daily MARCA. “I’d like to race the Tour, but if they don’t let me do it, I will prepare for the Olympic Games, which has a difficult course and at least in the time trial I could aspire for a medal. Then there’s the Vuelta a España, which is my home race.”

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    I thought the Vuelta was part of ASO, geez I can't keep this stuff straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfrance View Post
    ???

    “If they don’t invite us I will focus on other objectives. I have a ‘plan B’ if the Tour doesn’t want me,” Contador told Spanish sports daily MARCA. “I’d like to race the Tour, but if they don’t let me do it, I will prepare for the Olympic Games, which has a difficult course and at least in the time trial I could aspire for a medal. Then there’s the Vuelta a España, which is my home race.”
    Yes but after that he changed his mind apparently http://www.velonews.com/article/71914

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    incorrect.
    Five days is a little quick to say that the purchase won't happen. Ease up on the 'incorrect' button, son.

    Things happen very quickly in the sports business, and sometimes without any public clues or in rapid succession at some point in the future. It's not hard to find examples of this. Most recently, the Los Angeles Lakers of Pau Gasol caught the entire league (and fans, everyone) by surprise.

    Stay tuned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyMtnMerlin View Post
    So the news reports have been false rumors? Please update us.
    incorrect assessment of my usage of incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    incorrect assessment of my usage of incorrect.
    is that your way of saying you were wrong?
    there will come a time when there will not come a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcates View Post
    is that your way of saying you were wrong?
    here, i'll rewind, and playback, for clarities sake:

    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by donrhummy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    Not if ASO buys the Vuelta as some reports say they will do....
    incorrect.
    reading comprehension helps.

    i suggest you try it next time.
    Last edited by botto; 02-13-08 at 01:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    incorrect assessment of my usage of incorrect.
    Okay - I give up. What did you mean then?
    And yes, some of us appear to be that dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyMtnMerlin View Post
    Okay - I give up. What did you mean then?
    see above.

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    two statements presented: 1) ASO to buy Vuelta. 2) ASO owned Vuelta will not let in Astana. Incorrect was apparently not applied to 1, therefor...

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    Yes, but simply because Vuelta says yes to Astana now doesn't mean that ASO won't buy Vuelta between now and then. That was my retort to botto's statement "incorrect." It has not been determined that the purchase won't happen. It is still in speculation. In the meantime, Vuelta has said 'yes' to Astana. If ASO buys Vuelta between now and the start of Vuelta, what would happen? Who knows... but I would guess Astana would still be in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    see above.
    I guess I'm even slower than the server today. Still don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyMtnMerlin View Post
    I guess I'm even slower than the server today. Still don't get it.
    It's just botto trying to look clever as usual.

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