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Old 02-15-08, 02:38 PM
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Cat 4/5 riders

Those of you that do cat 4/5 races, do your bikes get weighed in before/after races? I know the UCI has the 6.8kg limit, so does that pertain to cat 4/5 as well or just the professional riders? I'm not sure completely how the governing body works and the rules that apply. The only reason I ask is I'm looking at a new bike build and I'm just curious how light I can make it without being too light since I am going to do my first race this spring. Hope my question doesn't sound too idiotic.
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I wouldn't worry about it.
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My bike was never weighed when I was 4 or 5.
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In the US you wont have to worry unless you are showing up at a national championship in the elite or pro class.
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Originally Posted by esammuli
I wouldn't worry about it.
So cat 4/5's don't go by the UCI regulations then? What about Cat 2-3?
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Umm, you have yet to do your first race, and you are building up a bike which may be <15 lbs?

What's wrong with this picture?
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Originally Posted by tranzformer
I'm not sure completely how the governing body works and the rules that apply.
https://www.usacycling.org/forms/RdTrkCx_rulebook.pdf
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Originally Posted by jrennie
In the US you wont have to worry unless you are showing up at a national championship in the elite or pro class.
Ok thanks. Good to know that I will be good to go even if I get up to Cat 1/2.
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technically I think the rule applies (see rulebook above)
but the officials have a hard time getting the basics covered and rarely get people for tech issues that arent blatent saftey problems.
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Originally Posted by Coyote2
Umm, you have yet to do your first race, and you are building up a bike which may be <15 lbs?

What's wrong with this picture?
I already have a road bike and have been riding for some time, 5yrs now. I have finally decided that I want to do some races and want to get myself a bike that I will use for racing/fast group rides. Nothing wrong with wanting to be a ww is there?
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Thanks I came across this which basically answered my question:

"Bicycles must meet current UCI technical regulations at
events that select 17-18, U23 and elite riders for international
competition or national teams
. All bicycles used in Federation
National Championship
(for age 17 and older riders) and NRC
races must comply with the current UCI regulations.
(f) Bicycles commonly known as recumbent may not" (emphasis added)
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Even if they rules did apply, you could just add weights.... I think. Mebee not.
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The only equipment regulation going on I've ever seen happen is a roll out for juniors. You could always add ice inside your seat tube.
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Originally Posted by CastIron
The only equipment regulation going on I've ever seen happen is a roll out for juniors. You could always add ice inside your seat tube.
No. Read the rules.
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Originally Posted by asgelle
No. Read the rules.
Reading comprehension a little slow?
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Originally Posted by CastIron
Reading comprehension a little slow?
No, you? UCI rules allow for post race inspection. Ice in seat tube would not work.
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Originally Posted by asgelle
No, you? UCI rules allow for post race inspection. Ice in seat tube would not work.
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...they don't check...ever...let it go...
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Originally Posted by asgelle
No, you? UCI rules allow for post race inspection. Ice in seat tube would not work.
That bit was sarcasm. It's friggen cat 4/5.
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Most of the time they're just happy you pinned your number on the right way.
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Originally Posted by dmotoguy
but the officials have a hard time getting the basics covered and rarely get people for tech issues that arent blatent saftey problems.
+1 - I personally have never been to a race where there are even remotely enough resources to begin even thinking about weighing bikes....let alone weighing a CAT IV or V bike.
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Originally Posted by sfcrossrider
Most of the time they're pissed because you pinned your number on the wrong way.
Fixed.

EDIT: Oh, but I did see a CAT V rider get yelled at for wearing a sleeveless base layer as his jersey. "Get a jersey with sleeves or go home."
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
+1 - I personally have never been to a race where there are even remotely enough resources to begin even thinking about weighing bikes....let alone weighing a CAT IV or V bike.
And how many of those races fell under 1J1e?
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they almost told me i couldnt race my first cat 5 because i had a sleeveless shirt on...
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