Need a fast tire
03-24-08, 11:46 AM
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Need a fast tire
I need some advice on tires. I'm looking for something fast, durable and light. If that even exists. All of my riding will be on NYC streets on DT Swiss RR 1.2 rims. I'm willing to spend some money on great tires. Can anyone recommend something good?
03-24-08, 11:59 AM
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Pro Race 2 or PR 3 from Michelin. I was always paranoid about running them daily, but I, as well as a few teammates have run them all the time for a few years with good results. Some will complain about their puncture resistence, supposedly corrected with the PR3, but I've had 1 flat in 5K miles.
03-24-08, 12:09 PM
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I've had great experience with the Pro 2 Race and GP4000S tires. I find both to be a great ride, durable and fast. Though neither pedals for me 
The only flat I've ever had with the Michelin Pro 2 Race is when I got pushed into the ditch by a car and road over a board with a nail sticking up. Actually went clear through my rim. Tire didn't have a chance.
The only flat I've ever had with the Michelin Pro 2 Race is when I got pushed into the ditch by a car and road over a board with a nail sticking up. Actually went clear through my rim. Tire didn't have a chance.
03-24-08, 12:15 PM
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I've been reading a lot of about these Michelins. I guess I'll give them a try. As for tubes, any good recommendations on those? The RR 1.2 rims are deep so would I need a 60mm valve?
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My favorite fast & light tire is the Veloflex Corsa. I use them as an everyday tire. Some seasons I have had no flats, others 4 or 5. I get about 1200 miles out of one.
03-24-08, 01:09 PM
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Michelin Pro3Race, Conti GP 4000s, or Conti GP Attack/Force.
I've long used the Pro2Races, but recently picked up a pair of the Attack/Forces (when I couldn't wait any longer for the Pro3Race to come out). I admit I really like the feel of the Attack/Forces.
I'm not entirely sure if there are significant differences between the 4000s and the Attack/Force - there are subtle differences, but I'm not sure if they really matter much.
I've long used the Pro2Races, but recently picked up a pair of the Attack/Forces (when I couldn't wait any longer for the Pro3Race to come out). I admit I really like the feel of the Attack/Forces.
I'm not entirely sure if there are significant differences between the 4000s and the Attack/Force - there are subtle differences, but I'm not sure if they really matter much.
03-24-08, 03:10 PM
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If you are looking for something light but with more focus on being bulletproof try Michelin Krylion Carbons. Nothing but stellar reviews across the board on roadbikereview.com and I can personally attest to their badassness.
They are not a racing tire, but they are not heavy and do not roll like **** like armadillos and gators do. They are 245 grams on the 23's and the only way you will get a flat is rolling straight over an upturned nail.
They are not a racing tire, but they are not heavy and do not roll like **** like armadillos and gators do. They are 245 grams on the 23's and the only way you will get a flat is rolling straight over an upturned nail.
03-24-08, 03:36 PM
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I ride on D T RR 1.2 rims and I use a 48mm presta stem.
03-24-08, 03:43 PM
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Throw the stick!!!!
I'm sorry but I wouldn't consider 1,200 miles to be durable. I consider 2,000 a minimum to be considered durable, I don't think I could justify running a tire that I had to replace every 1,200 miles. I'm used to getting at least 2,500 miles out of tires.
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I can't believe no one's mentioned Ultremo. Everyone who's tried them seems to like them. They will probably be my next tire purchase.
currently, the Conti 4000S has been good to me.
currently, the Conti 4000S has been good to me.
03-24-08, 05:55 PM
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I'm still racking up the miles on them, but I've been riding a pair of Kenda Kriteriums for a couple months now. 199grams and they roll pretty fast. The best part is that they seem to be quite a bit more durable than my panaracer stradius pro. The panaracers are a bit lighter and I perceive a slightly faster ride. But not enough to worry about them going flat on a ride.
The Kenda's are marketing some iron cloak technology that helps resist flats. Seems to work well. So far I'm impressed, but I have only 500-600 miles on them so far.
The Kenda's are marketing some iron cloak technology that helps resist flats. Seems to work well. So far I'm impressed, but I have only 500-600 miles on them so far.
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The pro races cut as easy as ****. Keep that in mind. That's going to be true for any high TPI tire.
03-24-08, 06:28 PM
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Exactly how easy does **** cut? Has this been standardized in a testing form by say, UL labs or such?
Schwalbe Ultremo. Though mine do seem to cut (but not puncture so far) easy as ****.
Schwalbe Ultremo. Though mine do seem to cut (but not puncture so far) easy as ****.
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I got about 2,500 miles on a set of Pro2s rotating them every 500 miles. Before that I has some Bontranger Race-X-lites and the rear was gone before 500 miles.
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Pro Race do get cosmetic cuts easy but they don't usually cause flats. They worried me at first but I didn't ever get a flat though perhaps ten rear tires and five fronts
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pothole: 2 | pro 2 race: 0
Double flat from a single pot hole, funny as hell
I'd still ride P2R though.
I just patched the tyre with some duct tape and plumber's quick repair tape.
Double flat from a single pot hole, funny as hell
I'd still ride P2R though.
I just patched the tyre with some duct tape and plumber's quick repair tape.
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What makes a tire .. fast?
03-24-08, 07:32 PM
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Throw the stick!!!!
I'm still racking up the miles on them, but I've been riding a pair of Kenda Kriteriums for a couple months now. 199grams and they roll pretty fast. The best part is that they seem to be quite a bit more durable than my panaracer stradius pro. The panaracers are a bit lighter and I perceive a slightly faster ride. But not enough to worry about them going flat on a ride.
The Kenda's are marketing some iron cloak technology that helps resist flats. Seems to work well. So far I'm impressed, but I have only 500-600 miles on them so far.
The Kenda's are marketing some iron cloak technology that helps resist flats. Seems to work well. So far I'm impressed, but I have only 500-600 miles on them so far.
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Here's some data that's a bit dated...been posted here before. At the bottom of the page, you can click on tubular or clincher tables to see a run-down.
https://rouesartisanales.over-blog.co...e-1503651.html
https://rouesartisanales.over-blog.co...e-1503651.html
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