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Old 03-29-08, 07:50 PM
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2004 TdF, Prologue TT, Cancellara takes 1st, Armstrong takes 2nd
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Originally Posted by grahny
2004 TdF, Prologue TT, Cancellara takes 1st, Armstrong takes 2nd
Fine, Cancellara beats him over 6.1km.

InduTRAIN over them both on a flat 40km+.
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Originally Posted by Duke of Kent
I hate to say it, but Michael Rogers is a bum compared to Armstrong and Cancellara.

Fast, yes, but if you look at the competition he faced, or lack thereof, his titles are far less impressive.

If Armstrong bothered racing/retaining form after July, and Cancellara any time in the last two years, they'd both give him a good ol' fashion beat down.

Cancellara did it handily in 2006, I believe.

Rogers has beaten Cancellara in the World TT title. You are talking through your blurter as to the quality of the fields. The Worlds TT generally has the same faces roll up every year. But yes, Cancellara has stepped up a level.

Single day TTs and TTs in Tours are not directly comparible. For example, Charlie Mottet was near unbeatable in one off events but would deterioate after two weeks of a Grand Tour. Other examples of riders who were impressive in single day TTs but less so in GT's were Gisiger, Van Hooydonck, Oosterboosh, Boardman.

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Jacques Anquetil anyone?
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Originally Posted by classic1
Rogers has beaten Cancellara in the World TT title. You are talking through your blurter as to the quality of the fields. The Worlds TT generally has the same faces roll up every year. But yes, Cancellara has stepped up a level.

Single day TTs and TTs in Tours are not directly comparible. For example, Charlie Mottet was near unbeatable in one off events but would deterioate after two weeks of a Grand Tour. Other examples of riders who were impressive in single day TTs but less so in GT's were Gisiger, Van Hooydonck, Oosterboosh, Boardman.
Well, I took a gander at the 2004 and 2005 results. Rogers faced pretty stiff competition in 2005, a little less so in 2004. Zabriskie and Cancellara were both pretty wet behind the ears still, in terms of racing in the big leagues, and not really at the height of their powers.*

I guess I was thinking of Botero for some reason. Good rider, but God knows how he won in 2002.

*Zabriskie being 29, but not really getting to Europe until he was...24 or 25?
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Don't forget this guy

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You mean this time trial?
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But could he take lance running a 10k?
he was in central park this morning and clocked a 34:56.
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Old 03-30-08, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dogpound
But could he take lance running a 10k?
he was in central park this morning and clocked a 34:56.
Who, Lance or Cancellera?
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Old 03-30-08, 04:04 PM
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I think with any type of hill at all and if he decides he wants to, Armstrong wins.

But I have nothing to support this other than I am a fan.
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Originally Posted by prendrefeu
Who, Lance or Cancellera?
Lance.
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Good question, but both need to race in the same mechanical conditions, same bike, same helmet all the same.

Indurain was a fantastic rider, lemond was an awesome TTist too. Anquetil? we ran doped all the time so why even think on him?

Based in that the racers will have the same bike, same everything... who might be able to win??? Pick any name from any era. I say lemmond might kick ass!

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Armstrong would win a mountain TT for sure.
Just sayin'.
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Originally Posted by grafsk8er
prolly one of the dumbest questions out there, but I HAVE TO KNOW! honestly, do you think cancellara would be able to beat armstrong in a TT? cancellara is a 2x world champ, armstrong never won worlds. what do you guys think?
I think Babe Ruth would drink ARod under the friggin table.

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Originally Posted by patentcad
I think Babe Ruth would drink ARod under the friggin table.
I'd like to see who can take more 'roids: Bonds or Canseco.
We can measure the diameter of each one's head at the end to determine who wins.
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Originally Posted by SushiJoe
I'd like to see who can take more 'roids: Bonds or Canseco.
We can measure the diameter of each one's head at the end to determine who wins.
No need. Pcad wins that contest.

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Originally Posted by patentcad
No need. Pcad wins that contest.

Doper.
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Doper.
I wish.
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