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Old 03-30-08, 10:05 PM   #1
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Lemond Tourmalet :

I read quite a bit in all the threads I could find. However, I didn't find much mentioned about how the shifting was. I read quite a bit about the Lemond Etape having some "grindy" shifting.

Any thoughts?

I really like the Tourmalet '08 - It's a little more pricey than I had initially planned, but it's a crisp looking bike. I'd like to not upgrade for awhile since I am a college student.

Thoughts?

Any owners of the Tourmalet? My girlfriend is torn between an Etape '08 and a Tourmalet '08

P.S - Hopefully you guys will tolerate my posts. I really do use the search function and read reviews.
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Old 03-30-08, 10:09 PM   #2
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I have an '07 Tourmalet.

I believe the '08's now have carbon fiber rear seat stays.

That said, mine has been an extremely faithful bike, easily dealing with the abuse I dealt out. The only reason I'm replacing the bike is because I feel like I've reached its performance envelope, and to achieve the ride "feel" I wanted I Needed a stiffer frame.
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Ah, well that's good to hear. Is your shifting pretty clean?
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Shifting is what you would expect from Shimano 105 group. Every couple hundred miles I'll have to give the RD a slight adjustment, but that's pretty SOP for any component group. The only time I've had any real shifting issues was when I frayed a cable at the shifter (common shimano problem), or waited too long to change a chain.
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I believe the 2008 Tourmalets have stepped down a bit in componentry from the '07 models. Tiagra shifters and FD, Bontrager crank, etc.
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I have an 05 Tourmalet which has been an outstanding ride for me. 105 brifters, a double chain ring and Ultegra in the rear. Shifting is normally very clean and quick with only occasional chatter/chain rub up front when I move up to the big ring... a half step change usually fixes this.

Carbon fork, carbon seat post... a comfortable ride.

You may want to consider a Reno vice the Etape.... mid point between the Tourmalet and Etape.
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I believe the 2008 Tourmalets have stepped down a bit in componentry from the '07 models. Tiagra shifters and FD, Bontrager crank, etc.
Seems like every year since 05 the components of the Tourmalet have been moving down....
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The brand bike has nothing to do with the shifting quality - its the drivetrain components put on the frame that matter.

The '08 Tourmalet is a bit of a drivetrain mutt using a 9/10-speed 105 rear derailleur, 9-speed Tiagra shifters, and a 9-speed SRAM cassette. However, nothing of this combination should present a problem and as adjusted should be smooth. My wife rides 4-year old Tiagra shifters and they are nice. I like the built-in gear indicator on the new versions. If you test ride and its not smooth, don't think its the Lemond thats the problem. The shop will quickly adjust and you can take it back out. That being said, different levels of components do have slight levels of shifting feel. You may want to try out another bike with 10-speed 105 shifters and cassette just so you know the difference, even if above your price range.

After that, you may decide you like the Tourmalet and it shifts just as well as the 105 shifters. Or you may really like the 105 shifters so much better in which case you can look at other bikes in your price range that may have it (there may be a few), or you may even find a closeout '07 higher-end model at the same price of the '08 Tourmalet. So, keep to your comfort budget but don't short change yourself.

If anyone posts here about this or that internet deal, or to stay away from Tiagra and get 105, I wouldn't listen. Do some test rides, and maybe include a model down from your price range and a model up from your price range so you can compare whats out there. By the sounds of it you will be much better served getting a new bike from a shop, where full bike prices are usually excellent anyway.

I like Lemonds, I have one, and its a nice bike. But, if you are looking at a 55cm or larger frame size, be aware these are very very quick handling bikes (or some may call twitchy) due to a steep headtube and 45mm rake fork. This is personal preference and you may love they way it steers, but know that many other makes, especially at your price level, will offer a more neutral steering feel.

Add on: The Etape sounds like it was more your price range, but you were concerned of the shifting. Well, it looks like the Etape has a Sora rear derailleur and 2203 shifters (listed 9-speed on Lemond website but is typo, the 8-speed cassette is correct). The Shimano 2200 series is basic entry level sub-Sora components and although I haven't used them, I have no doubt that the shifting is far and away sub-par compared to Tiagra shifters, and perhaps one would call them "grindy". There is a point where the shifting can actually dissuade you from riding and therefore I would really try to get at Tiagra or higher shifters like on the Tourmalet. And finally, the carbon stays on the Tourmalet will soak up vibrations better than the all aluminum Etape.

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Nah, not 55cm and higher. I'm only 5'8 3/4ths or so. I'll just have to test ride an '08 Tourmalet compared to the '07 tourmalet. I was pretty set on not spending over a grand, however I want smooth shifting. Every review I read about Etape components had said grindy shifting at times as a weakness. Not only that, this is afterall a starter bike for me.

Could I not just switch components later on if I decided I want 105 for FD rather than the Tiagra? I was just curious if anyone had an '08 and could comment on the shifting of the bike. Either way, if it is grindy - like you had said, I could go for an '07 for a better price than the '08 easily. However, aesthetically I really enjoy the '08 and all the reviews I've read for this bike are great thus far.
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I have an 08 Tourmalet and it shifts just wonderfully, I just adjusted the rear derailleur at around 200 miles in and still shifts wonderfully not grindy or what not. As with any bike, not just a Lemond or anything if it is properly adjusted it will shift nicely regardless of the component group.
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Still sounds as if you should consider a Reno:

http://www.lemondbikes.com/bikes/roa...minum/reno.php
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I have/was considering a Reno, but every post I had read had nothing good to say about the Sora's.
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I have/was considering a Reno, but every post I had read had nothing good to say about the Sora's.
My two cents but the front Derailleur is probably the least important part of the drive train and as for the brifters those could be upgraded if you're unhappy with the soras.... but overall, the Reno is a better bike and fits in your price range. I think the rear Derailleur being 105 makes up for the soras .....
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I have an '04 Tourmalet (105/Ultegra mix) and it is a 9 spd triple. I have had no shifting issues thus far. It has been a terrific bike. I see no reason not to get one.

I would say more but it is late and I need my gruesome sleep.

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07 Reno has 105 RD, tiagra FD/shifters. You might find a 2007 in the back room of a LBS, as I did just a few weeks ago. Under $700, rides and shifts great so far.

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I liked the Reno back in 04..I would have gotten one had my LBS has any in stock....but i got the Tourmalet for $850 so I will not complain.

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I decided to pick up an 08' Reno over a Tourmalet as a budget road bike a few weeks ago. When I took them both out for a spin the Reno seemed to shift better (both were already road ready). The Sora is surprisingly quick for the price range. The tourmalet did not seem to be worth the extra money.

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I dont know, that sharp looking paint job might be worth it!

In all seriousness, I'll have to just test out both bikes for myself and see which is more comfortable for me.
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I picked up an '08 tourmalet about a month ago. Really happy with it so far. Frame is 6066 AL, with carbon seat and chain stays. Very nice looking bike and a comfortable ride. Shifting is good. Brakes are ok, but not great. going to try out some high quality pads to see if it makes a difference. Saddle is not doing it for me. Can't seem to get comfortable on it, so will most likely switch it with my old standby that I've been carting around for years and used on various bikes.
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