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Old 04-04-08, 03:08 PM
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LSD good?

On my LSD day's after a ride i feel like i did nothing and i want to ride again.
Should increase the intensity a tad? (Current "LSD" days are at about 17.5 mph for 40-60 miles)
or just go longer?

My goals are specific to racing (Crits only as I can't climb worth a dookie) so my other days are more intense yet short.
thanks.
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actual racers can probably answer this definitively, but i'll take a stab..

i think the general answer would be "No, LSD is not enough."

for racing i'd work on shorter but more intense rides, and do intervals too.

nothing wrong with L-S-D, but it (from what i hear) isn't enough to help you win a race. good luck!
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LSD? I am geussing you are refering to something other than the hallucinogen. I just don't know what it is...
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Originally Posted by Jeebs Fat
LSD? I am geussing you are refering to something other than the hallucinogen. I just don't know what it is...
I think he means limited slip differential. If intensity increases too much then it is no longer a LSD ride. You need a balance of training to get better as Matt said.
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Assuming you are already in shape (base training done) theres no need to do LSD rides right now. The L in LSD wont allow you to recover and the S means you will be in no mans land between an easy recovery ride and hard workout.


Wrong time of year.
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When does your race season start? This seems a little late in the season to be doing lsd (long steady distances).
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Is this LSD being used on recovery days? As long as you are going back into your intensity days without feeling burned out or showing any signs of overtraining, it probably won't kill you to step it up a little, but you shouldn't be in pain at the end or anything. Save that for the days immediately preceding LSD consumption.
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sweet, more drug jokes. It has no benefit unless you're trying to fat-burn on recovery days. If you're just now swinging back into a training schedule, your best bet is to latch on to fast group rides and survive as long as you can.
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LSD good??......yes
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LSD.. 4tw. Try it with some weed
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I would think that in Cali the race season is already in full swing, so you should definitely be doing intensity and speed work-outs. For those like me that find it very difficult to go hard when riding alone, try to get in as many fast group rides as possible, they combine both intensity and speed.
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Originally Posted by outofshape
On my LSD day's after a ride i feel like i did nothing and i want to ride again.
Should increase the intensity a tad? (Current "LSD" days are at about 17.5 mph for 40-60 miles)
or just go longer?

My goals are specific to racing (Crits only as I can't climb worth a dookie) so my other days are more intense yet short.
thanks.
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Now that all the children have posted their little drug jokes and giggled into their hands here's a real answer.

LSD rides are a bit old school for most here. If you want to do them you need to go longer. 60 miles isn't a long ride.

LSD rides are usually done in winter and form the foundation for your fitness during the rest of the season. If you are going to focus on crits, and you already have a base, you won't benefit much from them (other than burning fat).

This doesn't mean to say that you shouldn't continue to do longer rides during the race season. It's just that they shouldn't be quite so steady. There should also be some intensity and some hard jumps and tempo pieces as your fitness allows.
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Originally Posted by outofshape
On my LSD day's after a ride i feel like i did nothing and i want to ride again.
Should increase the intensity a tad? (Current "LSD" days are at about 17.5 mph for 40-60 miles)
or just go longer?

My goals are specific to racing (Crits only as I can't climb worth a dookie) so my other days are more intense yet short.
thanks.
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Much shorter.

Much more intensity.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
Now that all the children have posted their little drug jokes and giggled into their hands here's a real answer.
No effing sense of humor, Bobby Boy?!
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
Now that all the children have posted their little drug jokes and giggled into their hands here's a real answer.
Another child like post Bobby...LSD gooood.

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thanks guy's. Iuse LSD as recovery, i am still trying to drop those last ten pounds to aid in climbing. I guess recovery is a better word than LSD. (or not depending on your drug of choice).
thanks again!
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Oh wow man . . . . like far out man . . . . . .faaaaaarrrrrrrr OUT!!!!



Originally Posted by dcbikeguy
Another child like post Bobby...LSD gooood.


Oh, sorry . . . . had a flashback there for a minute.
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Originally Posted by Jeebs Fat
LSD? I am geussing you are refering to something other than the hallucinogen. I just don't know what it is...
You and me, both. 35 years ago, I would have said "go for it".
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Originally Posted by outofshape
On my LSD day's after a ride i feel like i did nothing and i want to ride again.
Should increase the intensity a tad? (Current "LSD" days are at about 17.5 mph for 40-60 miles)
or just go longer?

My goals are specific to racing (Crits only as I can't climb worth a dookie) so my other days are more intense yet short.
thanks.
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"..i feel like i did nothing .." "...I can't climb worth a dookie..."

LSD is good in November & December. Do 40-60 miles of climbing instead
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Originally Posted by outofshape
thanks guy's. Iuse LSD as recovery, i am still trying to drop those last ten pounds to aid in climbing. I guess recovery is a better word than LSD. (or not depending on your drug of choice).
thanks again!
Recovery is not 40-60 miles. It's a SHORT, EASY ride at very minimal effort.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
LSD rides are usually done in winter and form the foundation for your fitness during the rest of the season. If you are going to focus on crits, and you already have a base, you won't benefit much from them (other than burning fat).

This doesn't mean to say that you shouldn't continue to do longer rides during the race season. It's just that they shouldn't be quite so steady. There should also be some intensity and some hard jumps and tempo pieces as your fitness allows.
This is exactly how I understand LSDs, although I've always heard it as Long Slow Distance. For runners, LSD is a way to build endurance and to be able to be on ones feet for longer than a 5k. Often, for training for something like a half marathon or marathon, one day is commited to an LSD, a day to hill work, and the rest to a % of race pace.

I agree that you probably have to go at least 60 miles on your LSD days. They probably won't wipe you out, but it should build endurance.
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