SushiJoe

https://www.rouesartisanales.com/article-18854456.html

Lots of Red features trickling down to Force and Rival, namely adjustable reach.

Dubbayoo

Wonder if the price diff between Red and Force will change, brifters at least.

SushiJoe

It'll be interesting to see.

patentcad

In Iran you would be summarily beheaded for your Infidel rantings. Here we can only light a candle for you @ the Sisters of the Holy Order of Dura Achee Chapel.

cocoasprinkles

i wonder if i warranty my levers i'll get the new carbon ones. hmmm.

enjoi07

the rival looks good, when are these due out?

sers

yeah and FSA are the Jesuits. From garbage completes to high end Italian, it's Shimano something and FSA everything else . Throw in some Ritchey for good measure, excluding house brand ****. Shimano is a great house and they should distance themselves (like they did for their crankset) from carbon for the sake of carbon, and less weight for the sake of selling bikes.

Bikelyst

Pics of Rival

SushiJoe

Rival looks like it will be a hot item later this year.

jcbenten

Is the BB30 bottom bracket design retro-fittable or does it have to be designed into the frame? Inquiring minds want to know.

Dura-Ace is a has-been groupo. SRAM Rival will take over the world.

YATES

yeah those rivals brifters are sexy.

durk onion

BB30 bearing cups are pressed in, so your frame needs to be designed for it. But if the new cranks are like Zipp Vuma, it will fit on your old frame. The Vuma uses screw in bearing cups if I remember correctly. Oh, and SRAM now owns Zipp, so it would be a safe assumption that the new cranks will use screw in cups.

Dubbayoo

Is this stuff coming out in 2008 or 2009?

WheresWaldo

Late fall is what I read on WeightWeenies

Waldo

To expand upon this a bit, the BB30 bearings are 42 mm in outside diameter, thus they are too large to be made to work with a traditional bottom bracket shell (aside from the whole issue of pressing bearings into a threaded shell).

The SRAM BB30 crankset is a true BB30 setup, intended solely for BB30 frames (unlike our crankset, which is only available aftermarket with English or Italian BB cups).

cocoasprinkles

NICE!

Everest

Should have waited to buy my Rival group

Dubbayoo

No. There's always something better coming no matter when you buy. I want Red brifters & FD. This changes things but I don't want to wait another year for better Force to come out.

Everest

Yeah, I know, I got a pretty good deal on my group too. Those new shifters are sweet though. When they come out I may have to get a set.

SushiJoe

I'm pretty much every company's guinea pig, haha! I love new schwag.

tekhna

SRAM is really, really upping the ante in the groupset wars.

freeskihp

Sick! rival + force rear der + Pedalforce = happy camper

enjoi07

as long as the price stays rival, im going rival.

Everest

Yeah they are hard to beat, quality and price wise.

Strong Bad

Italy has the Vatican and Campagnolo. DA used to be the non-sectarian choice. I ride DA, but I'm not a religious zealot. SRAM seems to be doing things right. I'd love to try Red. Maybe next build.