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    Anyone got any John Stenner information?

    All I know is that he was a very good time trialer, and that he was killed by a car.

    How good was he?

    I found this in part of a letter on Cycling News:

    "I once knew a rider named John Stenner, who, prior to his death, would laugh about the newfound emphasis on these types of physical traits (VO2max, etc). Here is a rider who once won the National Time Trial Championships by such a large margin that his next two competitors filed a protest- convinced he must have cut the course, or something. Since the next two spots behind him were a former U.S. Hour Record Holder (John Frey), and a then nearly 40 year old rider who would later go the Olympics (Kent Bostick)- and had won this event many, many times between them- I guess they had reason to think that one could not go faster."
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/letters/2....shtml#chapman

    Is this true? Did Bostick and the other guy virtually accuse him of cheating?

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    Don't know, but having ridden with both Bostick and Frey I'd say that John Stenner must have been on hell of a fast guy to put these two guys off like that. And by "ridden with" I mean that I was with them at the start of the ride.

    RIP, no matter what.

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    John Stenner was a hoss. He was the Zabriskie of the '90s. I think he was killed in a car crash.

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    John was hit and killed on the frontage road of I-25 and HWY 66 in Colorado by a 17 year old driver on May 16, 2004. It is true that Bostick protested the race (John beat him by about 58 seconds if memory serves me correctly), but I don't believe that Frey protested. John (Stenner) had his degree in aerospace engineering from CU-Boulder and was one of the first racers to fully embrace aerodynamic concepts in bicycle racing. While certainly a strong boy, it was his mental strength that pushed him to the top. One night we were working on our respective pickups in my dad's garage on a bone-chilling December night when he told me something about racing that I will never forget. When referring to 1,2, Pro races he said: "It's not about who is stronger, it's about who is willing to hurt the most."
    -Eric Stenner aka "Little Sten" to John

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    I raced with John at the 1st collegiate national in San Luis Obispo in the late 80's.. He won the road race, riding away solo from the field.. It was brutally hot that day and was an unbelievable ride by a great guy..

    I saw him last, in Boulder, CO right before he went to the Olympic games..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Stu View Post
    All I know is that he was a very good time trialer, and that he was killed by a car.

    How good was he?

    I found this in part of a letter on Cycling News:

    "I once knew a rider named John Stenner, who, prior to his death, would laugh about the newfound emphasis on these types of physical traits (VO2max, etc). Here is a rider who once won the National Time Trial Championships by such a large margin that his next two competitors filed a protest- convinced he must have cut the course, or something. Since the next two spots behind him were a former U.S. Hour Record Holder (John Frey), and a then nearly 40 year old rider who would later go the Olympics (Kent Bostick)- and had won this event many, many times between them- I guess they had reason to think that one could not go faster."
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/letters/2....shtml#chapman


    Is this true? Did Bostick and the other guy virtually accuse him of cheating?
    I rode with John at the Tour of the Europen Community in 1989. We were riding for the US Team and roomed together. There were a few smaller races before we got to the EC, and it was then that we did most of our hanging out. The thing I remember most about him were his interests OUTSIDE of cycling. He spoke like, `Well, this is interesting, good experiences, etc.,` but I remember him being very excited to get on with school. He was a quiet guy. Very humble. Spoke in a soft voice. He liked to read. He could absolutely drop the hammer in a race, no doubt about it, but it was never a `win at all costs` type thing. He was gentleman. He respected strength on the bike but seemed more interested in what came AFTER cycling. He would ask me what I wanted to do when it was over. I didn`t really have an answer for him. I didn`t see that far. He did. And he mentioned a few times that it wasn`t a bad idea to give it some thought. He was gentle. That`s what I remember about John Stenner.

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    I knew John Stenner very well

    I was co-president of the Colligiate Cycling club with John. I spend many Saturdays with John. We went to World's together, split a hotel room in 1986. I knew him when he was a cat 2 and cat 1. I called his split times, provided his water bottles and sag, when no one else would. Yes, he was that fast. No he did not use any alternative substances. I know for a fact. I also knew Kent Bostick.

    The OLYMPIC body is a political entity. BRAC has had the same people running it since 1984.
    I was the Technical Director of The USCF National CHampionships. I have been around since before Red Zinger became the Coors Classic, Connie Carpenter was just beginning her success in Europe, Davis Finney was racing home turf, and Len Pettyjon coached Alexi to the Olympic Gold , sprinting past Davis.

    I did not know John was killed. I left Boulder onto a career in medicine and lost touch for personal reasons. Here is your answer. He was that good. I know. I was there, I rode with him, I spent hours with him. He was a man of integrity. The "inside" bike crowd did not let him in easily. John worked for every race he won.

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    I announced Nationals in SLC and Tooele Utah in 1991. He won the TTT that year with Lieswyn and two others.

    "Hoss" is a great way to describe him on the bike. Big Motor.

    Super nice guy.

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    Video of John winning 88 Collegiate Nationals..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CMqKsmPN8c

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    Nice vid - inspiring stuff.

    Seems like he was a great guy/cyclist..
    pro-meter: lol

    blog

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    Thanks for all this info. This is awesome!

    It's great to see people talk about an unspoken legend.
    Truth, like light, blinds. Falsehood, on the contrary, is a beautiful twilight that enhances every object.
    -Albert Camus

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    Thanks SoCalrider for a treasured piece of the past. How bout the chromoly frames? Seeing John laugh at the end cracked me up, he was such a geek in a good way. Not a typical gear head or obsessed road warrior, he desperately wanted in the bike clicks in Boulder.
    A Sat criterium none of the riders would team with him. He went solo. I showed up with my six year old kid. John handed me water bottles, watch and begged me to help. Being the underdog, he kicked ass. The pack tried to eat him. They blocked, bumped and one guy even elbowed him. John rode his heart out. He placed. I profanely let John know how much I hated those egos. John put his hands over my kids ears admonishing me for swearing. That explains John's values.
    Little brother, if you read this, please tell your family I am deeply sorry for your loss and tragedy. Stenner was all heart and integrity. I wasn't around in the later years but I hope he knew he was accepted by 2004. Boulder's bicycle mecca is a ruthless crowd and nice guys are lunch. Add the governing body politics and you either have to be heartless and not care, or so stupid you don't get. John wanted to change the sport. They made him pay. I still hate some of those bastards for that.
    I just paid my registration for my first event June 20. At fifty two I'm back on the bike. Stenner reached from beyond. Thanks SoCalrider. Crank dealer! :8)

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    Jen

    You are so welcome.. I just added the Criterium from that year.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16K_G9tVYLI

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    Please visit the John Stenner Memories page on Facebook. We recently started it as a way for friends and riders to post memories, thoughts, pictures, and videos of John. May 16, 2014 will mark the 20th anniversary of his passing. He was an incredibly special person and amazing rider. If you had an experience with him or knew him, it would mean a lot to us for you to share it. Thanks.

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