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Hairline Cracks at droputs in Ritchey WCS Carbon Fork

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Old 06-15-08, 10:33 PM
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Hairline Cracks at droputs in Ritchey WCS Carbon Fork

I've had this fork for a few years and it was never damaged or subject to any falls. Today I noticed a hairline crack that goes all the way around *each* dropout. The cracks are at the same location on each one and I'm guessing they're at the seam of the aluminum insert. It appears that only the clearcoat is affected but I'm probably going to replace the fork and not take any chances.

Has anyone seen cracks like this on any carbon fork with aluminum inserts? And, if you have one of these forks, please check it carefully and let us know if you see any -- they're tough to see unless you're looking for them.
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Did you get these on EBay? I remember reading about counterfeit WCS carbon forks being sold on fleabay that were cracking exactly like these are. If I remember right, Ritchey stated that the genuine WCS forks had a pure carbon dropout and that any aluminum in the dropout area was a sign of a counterfeit item.

Regardless, I'd be VERY wary of riding a fork in that condition.
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Similar story here
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Oh that sucks. Pretty sad story there, rollin. I hope the OP didn't get it from that guy Sting something from ebay.
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I would strongly recommend not riding that bike until either:
a) you replace the fork, or
b) you send the fork back to Ritchey for inspection and they can say with confidence that it is just a cosmetic issue with the clearcoat.

Having any fork fail will be a spectacularly bad day.

I had a Litespeed fork that developed cracks a few years ago. They were near the unicrown area, where the carbon fiber legs wrapped up towards the steerer. The unicrown section was painted. It is possible that the cracks were isolated to the paint layer, where the legs had been flexing as they joined the crown and the base of the steerer tube. However, I didn't want to take any chances and I replaced the fork. I'd rather spend a few hundred dollars on a new fork than a few thousand on reconstructive surgery. Besides, I had gotten the fork for free when I purchased the frame, so I didn't feel like I was "owed" anything.

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Your fork looks like one of the copies to me because of no paint on the crown of the fork.

Read the below link

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/fo...ht=ritchy+fork
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Originally Posted by Kelly.Fisher
...If I remember right, Ritchey stated that the genuine WCS forks had a pure carbon dropout and that any aluminum in the dropout area was a sign of a counterfeit item.
The 2008 WCS fork has black painted aluminum dropouts.
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Originally Posted by Mike V
Mine was purchased off ebay . From the WW thread it's not exactly clear where these forks came from but I am going to replace it.

The important thing is that if anyone here rides the same fork please inspect it regularly. In fact, I'd recommend replacing it immediately either way. I was lucky that I noticed the cracks so I had some warning. But, it just as easily could have been a catastrophe if the fork suddenly failed while I was riding.
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why not sand through the paint and see if it is really cracked?
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Originally Posted by shabbasuraj
why not sand through the paint and see if it is really cracked?
My concern is that if the paint around the insert seams are cracked then the inserts aren't properly bonded to the carbon, no?
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Originally Posted by Mike V
Your fork looks like one of the copies to me because of no paint on the crown of the fork.

Read the below link

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/fo...ht=ritchy+fork
Does anyone have an executive summary of this thread?
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Originally Posted by Ziemas
Does anyone have an executive summary of this thread?
eBay'd parts don't come with any guarantees, including saftey. if your parts came from an authorized dealer, they should be fine. save your recepts.
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Originally Posted by Val23708
eBay'd parts don't come with any guarantees, including saftey. if your parts came from an authorized dealer, they should be fine. save your recepts.
I gathered that much. What does it specifically say about the forks in question?
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Originally Posted by Post42K
My concern is that if the paint around the insert seams are cracked then the inserts aren't properly bonded to the carbon, no?
no..

sand it and look for yourself.. if you were gonna trash the fork anyways..

I have a feeling that the crack that you see, is just the paint.
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Originally Posted by shabbasuraj
I have a feeling that the crack that you see, is just the paint.
Agree, it appears to be just the paint for now. But even if the carbon isn't cracked, why would the paint crack all the way around both inserts unless they were starting to lose their bond with the carbon?
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Originally Posted by Post42K
Agree, it appears to be just the paint for now. But even if the carbon isn't cracked, why would the paint crack all the way around both inserts unless they were starting to lose their bond with the carbon?
Because the different materials have different elasticity. You wouldn't see paint failure from losing the bond unless the joint separated suddenly.

The carbon seatstay bond on one of my bikes did this, cracked all the way around.
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Originally Posted by Post42K
Agree, it appears to be just the paint for now. But even if the carbon isn't cracked, why would the paint crack all the way around both inserts unless they were starting to lose their bond with the carbon?
Lots-o-things can happpen...

Carbon might be flexing in a manner that the paint does not want to... per se.

Hence a crack...

Carbon might be completely fine.

Thus sand it and take a look if there is a crack underneath.
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well it looks like thats where the alu meets the carbon... therefore a joint. and if the joint is fracturing thats probably not a good thing.
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As others have mentioned I'm pretty sure that is an immitation fork and not the genuine article. Bad mojo. Do NOT ride it further.

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