I'm officially a bit scared now (a rant).
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I'm officially a bit scared now (a rant).
I just got a carbon fork, and having ridden it a little over 35 miles yesterday, to much of my happiness, I'm still wary about the "carbon fiber technology."
To start, it's a Kinesis-made lower-end fork (cheapest 1" steerer Nashbar offered, and I also believe it was the only one). If I were going carbon, I would trust a more established company like Trek with their OCLV process or Easton with their experience, but 1" steerers are being phased out, and I really can't justify a $300 fork on what was a $300 bike.
Today, in the midst of having no work to do, I came across a forum started by alanbikehouston in regards to warnings issued by Trek on how to properly handle carbon-fiber equipment. I know that he's not the biggest fan of CF (though he rides a Trek OCLV bike, so far as I know), but it got me wondering...and somewhat scared. Accidents involving broken forks often come out a HUGE mess, and I really don't want to get a taste of one of those. I've been hit by cars and ran through windshields, but I really don't want to cut my life short.
On top of this, I'm also considering investing on a 2008 Trek Madone 5.1, which is all carbon, no child's play. I can't wait to benefit from all of the beautiful properties inherited from a proper CF bike, but it still scares me that some amazing (and horribly catastrophic) accidents can happen with this material. Yes, I'm aware that all polymer-composite materials fail like carbon fiber, as well as any metal that is treated long enough.
Oh well; if it's used on planes and buildings...
To start, it's a Kinesis-made lower-end fork (cheapest 1" steerer Nashbar offered, and I also believe it was the only one). If I were going carbon, I would trust a more established company like Trek with their OCLV process or Easton with their experience, but 1" steerers are being phased out, and I really can't justify a $300 fork on what was a $300 bike.
Today, in the midst of having no work to do, I came across a forum started by alanbikehouston in regards to warnings issued by Trek on how to properly handle carbon-fiber equipment. I know that he's not the biggest fan of CF (though he rides a Trek OCLV bike, so far as I know), but it got me wondering...and somewhat scared. Accidents involving broken forks often come out a HUGE mess, and I really don't want to get a taste of one of those. I've been hit by cars and ran through windshields, but I really don't want to cut my life short.
On top of this, I'm also considering investing on a 2008 Trek Madone 5.1, which is all carbon, no child's play. I can't wait to benefit from all of the beautiful properties inherited from a proper CF bike, but it still scares me that some amazing (and horribly catastrophic) accidents can happen with this material. Yes, I'm aware that all polymer-composite materials fail like carbon fiber, as well as any metal that is treated long enough.
Oh well; if it's used on planes and buildings...
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Please explain (even if it's with your usually short responses).
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I was wondering where abh got to...are the problems with carbon fiber compounded by using clipless pedals by any chance?
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Sure the crashes are horrible, but they're also a tiny percentage. 99.9% of CF bike owners are perfectly happy. Just be smart- if you crash, check it over.
Or just don't crash.
Or just don't crash.
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I would think that this is almost easier said than done. Then again, I would love to meet a cyclist that goes out intended on crashing...
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ABH had some very good points and a lot of not so good. CF forks are not so fragile that you will break them looking at them. I regularly go off of and up on to curbs on my full cf rig. I am not worried. Kinesis is a good company; they tend to build a lot of stuff for other manufacturers.
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Have you ever seen a car accident? Do you still drive?
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didn't they move up to 1.125" and 1.250" full carbon steerers since 1" carbon steerers weren't as durable as 1" cro-mo or aluminum steerers?
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Does your fork have a carbon or aluminum steerer? Guessing with a 1" it's aluminum. If so, I wouldn't worry unless you've wrecked it. If / when you do have a strong impact to the fork, have it looked over by your shop, or just replace it. I was a bit worried the first couple of times I went out on a carbon fork coming from steel frames & forks. Now, I don't give it a second thought. Just try to keep the rubber side down and stationary objects well clear of my path.
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I crashed my Trek 5200 before....hit a big white rock on the white line that I did not see as I was hammering along and not seeing straight. Hit it hard enough to tweak the wheel so I couldn't ride it (around 23-24 mph when I hit), and it sent me sliding down the road on my back. The bike was fine, including the fork, and it was a pretty hard impact.
I run a 1" Easton EC90SL fork on my Trek 2500 with a carbon steerer, and I haven't had any issues.
I run a 1" Easton EC90SL fork on my Trek 2500 with a carbon steerer, and I haven't had any issues.
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What does that tell you?
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Carbon is very strong. Alot of the guys who like to cut down carbon can't afford to buy it so they claim it's no good. If you gave them a carbon fiber bike they'd be singing its praises all over this forum.
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I weigh 200lbs plus. I have a Kinesis Fork with a 1 inch CF steerer on my Merlin, with a few spacers under the stem. I've put 10,000 plus miles on the setup, including 50mph descents down the Col de Aubisque and lived to tell the tale.
I wouldn't worry about it. (Besides, if you're lucky they will be someone around to throw you a few tubulars strung together).
I wouldn't worry about it. (Besides, if you're lucky they will be someone around to throw you a few tubulars strung together).
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Do you lay awake at night worrying about massive asteroid strikes too?
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First, ignore alanbikehouston when it comes to carbon. He goes from 'cranky retro-grouch' into full-on paranoid rant mode when it comes to that material.
Second, I'm 255lbs. and ride carbon road bikes and mountain bikes. I break cranks, rip knobbies off of tubeless mountain bike tires, and otherwise beat stuff up. I feel safe on carbon. If I can, you can.
Second, I'm 255lbs. and ride carbon road bikes and mountain bikes. I break cranks, rip knobbies off of tubeless mountain bike tires, and otherwise beat stuff up. I feel safe on carbon. If I can, you can.
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ok, somebody's slipping up here. 20 posts and no mushroom cloud.
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If you're too much of a wuss, buy a steel bike. Seriously. I had a Kinesis carbon fork on an REI Novara for years and it was fine. I don't know why you have such unfounded fears of carbon fiber products. They've been around and under develeopment for a long time. The only non-carbon products on my Orbea Orca is the Dura Ace group set.
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Check out this link.
https://www.tapplastics.com/info/carbonnews.php
I think it's gonna be fine for your fork if it's used for these planes that are under considerably more stress than you could ever put on your fork. Then again, I have no idea what you're doing with your fork.
https://www.tapplastics.com/info/carbonnews.php
I think it's gonna be fine for your fork if it's used for these planes that are under considerably more stress than you could ever put on your fork. Then again, I have no idea what you're doing with your fork.
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Check out this link.
https://www.tapplastics.com/info/carbonnews.php
I think it's gonna be fine for your fork if it's used for these planes that are under considerably more stress than you could ever put on your fork. Then again, I have no idea what you're doing with your fork.
https://www.tapplastics.com/info/carbonnews.php
I think it's gonna be fine for your fork if it's used for these planes that are under considerably more stress than you could ever put on your fork. Then again, I have no idea what you're doing with your fork.
I'm not bustin' on carbon forks, I ride one (like everybody else); just saying that posting up pictures of the 787 or whatever it is everytime someone mentions "irrational" fears of carbon is like posting a picture of $350 Assos bibs whenever someone with $20 Nashbar shorts complains his ass hurts.