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Old 06-30-08, 05:33 PM
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Cyclist killer gets 8 years

Here's the link: https://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/ju...yclists-death/

Is it too much, too little, or just right?
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Fair.
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For negligence, that's fair. If it was intentional, life would be my minimum.
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Too lenient i think. WTF are you doing driving a car when you have seizures? Not fair. LIFE!
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Way too lenient. He took a life. A life that can never be returned. He wasn't taking his meds, which contributed to it. That's even worse.
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So the kid that that killed the cyclist in Colorado while texting gets probation and this guy who has a medical condition gets 8 years.
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Originally Posted by JoelS
Way too lenient. He took a life. A life that can never be returned. He wasn't taking his meds, which contributed to it. That's even worse.
He couldn't afford his medications and he may have needed to drive to go to work regardless. 8 years is fair.
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
So the kid that that killed the cyclist in Colorado while texting gets probation and this guy who has a medical condition gets 8 years.
Texting kid should have at least had some time in juvenille hall, his license suspended until age 25, and community service.
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Originally Posted by johnnychimpo
Too lenient i think. WTF are you doing driving a car when you have seizures? Not fair. LIFE!
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This person got off with a $110 fine.
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Too lenient IMO.
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I didn't think Deputy James Council would get charged, but I hope he fries for negligently killing Matt Peterson and Kristy Gough:

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Originally Posted by adam
This person got off with a $110 fine.
The question that never gets answered, however, is did the person (or the person's insurance) have to pay out a wrongful death compensation to the family?
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more on the story

being a tennessean i know a little more about the story. the driver hit and run. after he hit jeff he then ran into another car and kept going. he then ran into another car before finally coming to a stop. witnesses said he was weaving from median to shoulder prior to running jeff down. jeff was on the shoulder according to those witnesses. he got what he deserved. having a medical condition (seizures) is no excuse for hitting someone. if you cant afford your medication then stay the hel! off the road...
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Eight years in a federal prison???
Don't you think those places should be reserved for repeat and violent offenders?
Mr.Carroll should not have been driving...yes.
He should not have had a government issued driver's licence...yes.

Mr.Carroll should not have to spend time in federal prison.
Future driving privileges revoked...yes.
Time served in a community program...sure.
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If he continued afterwards, that's another thing and deserves more than 8 years in my opinion. Or was this just one big pinball run while the guy was incapacitated ala Santa Monica Farmer's Market style?
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Originally Posted by El Diablo Rojo
So the kid that that killed the cyclist in Colorado while texting gets probation and this guy who has a medical condition gets 8 years.
cant speak about the kid in colorado but youre damn right this guy should have gotten 8 years. his medical condition obviously made driving dangerous therefore.....DONT DRIVE. its simple really.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
If he continued afterwards, that's another thing and deserves more than 8 years in my opinion. Or was this just one big pinball run while the guy was incapacitated ala Santa Monica Farmer's Market style?
no. he made at least one turn during his 'escape'
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It's hard to determine what a like is worth in terms of jail time. My comment would be why do people like this continue to drive? Obviously a medical condition that he knew about. The excuse that he couldn't afford the meds doesn't cut it. There had to other alternatives. What he decided was that his driving a car was more important than the lives of other motorists, cyclists and pedestrians on the public ways. For every excuse he could give for why he had to drive his car, if you came up with an alternative, he would have another excuse or reason to take it's place.
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Originally Posted by unbelievably
Eight years in a federal prison???
Don't you think those places should be reserved for repeat and violent offenders?
Mr.Carroll should not have been driving...yes.
He should not have had a government issued driver's licence...yes.

Mr.Carroll should not have to spend time in federal prison.
Future driving privileges revoked...yes.
Time served in a community program...sure.
I feel that federal prison should be filled with people that kill others.

I don't feel that it is the governments job to make people take pills (in fact i find this to be a bad thing), It is your job not to kill people, this guy failed.

I wish he got more than 8, but at least this is somewhat putting a foot down, more than countless other instances.

Federal prison can be filled with people caught with trans state money laundering, and drug dealing... i certainly feel like it is worthy of killers
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Originally Posted by sonnyred
It's hard to determine what a like is worth in terms of jail time. My comment would be why do people like this continue to drive? Obviously a medical condition that he knew about. The excuse that he couldn't afford the meds doesn't cut it. There had to other alternatives. What he decided was that his driving a car was more important than the lives of other motorists, cyclists and pedestrians on the public ways. For every excuse he could give for why he had to drive his car, if you came up with an alternative, he would have another excuse or reason to take it's place.
+1. He should not have been behind a wheel. Flat out. He knew he had a condition. He was playing with fire.
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Fair sentence or not, the guy will be out in 2 years if he does not screw up in the klink.
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Not if it's federal prison he won't. There is no parole in the federal system.
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Seems a bit short by me.
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